QF Cabin Crew Singapore Base

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So it looks like Qantas will establishing a cabin crew base in Singapore to be used exclusively for flights to Australia. Australian crew will eventually stop flying to and from Singapore.

120 cabin crew in the first year and then 650 over the next 5 years.
 
So it looks like Qantas will establishing a cabin crew base in Singapore to be used exclusively for flights to Australia. Australian crew will eventually stop flying to and from Singapore.

120 cabin crew in the first year and then 650 over the next 5 years.
I strongly welcome this initiative. This will make Singapore - Australia flights to receive better service.
 
Service will definitely improve, the unions will be jumping up and down however.

Over a longer period it wouldn’t surprise me if they start to mirror the JQ model with using offshore crew for international flights. Finnair obviously do it on Asian flights.
 
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Service will definitely improve, the unions will be jumping up and down however.

Over a longer period it wouldn’t surprise me if they start to mirror the JQ model with using offshore crew for international flights. Finnair obviously do it on Asian flights.
Has there ever been a problem with crew? Consistent feedback is how pax feel ‘at home’ the moment they board.
 
Has there ever been a problem with crew? Consistent feedback is how pax feel ‘at home’ the moment they board.
Not a problem as such, more just a higher level of consistency when it comes to service levels from Asian based crews.

That’s not just a QF issue. Customer service in general across the west can leave a lot to be desired at times. Don’t even get me started on retail.
 
So QF 1/2 will be flown with UK and Singapore crew operating a leg each.
 
Not a problem as such, more just a higher level of consistency when it comes to service levels from Asian based crews.

That’s not just a QF issue. Customer service in general across the west can leave a lot to be desired at times. Don’t even get me started on retail.
I flew the Finnair wetlease fairly recently - so no ‘teething issues’ or the like - and defo didn’t notice any improvement in service. The crew were slower in economy… with some issues creeping in… like leaving meal trays in front of pax for 30-40 minutes. Well after everyone had finished eating. And didn’t have the same rapport with pax. Maybe it’s because they were Finnair crew and following AY SOPs as opposed to QF?
 
I flew the Finnair wetlease fairly recently - so no ‘teething issues’ or the like - and defo didn’t notice any improvement in service. The crew were slower in economy… with some issues creeping in… like leaving meal trays in front of pax for 30-40 minutes. Well after everyone had finished eating. And didn’t have the same rapport with pax. Maybe it’s because they were Finnair crew and following AY SOPs as opposed to QF?
An interesting nugget that I got from the Finnair SIN-based crew was that the QF service was apparently a lot more involved compared to the AY one (at least down the back, not sure about up the front), which is why they found the service a little clumsy at times because of the number of bits and bobs involved. That being said, I've never noticed that the service was any worse (if anything, it's often better) than when the flight was operated as QF81/82.

I am guessing the AY service in Y might be more simplified.
 
An interesting nugget that I got from the Finnair SIN-based crew was that the QF service was apparently a lot more involved compared to the AY one (at least down the back, not sure about up the front), which is why they found the service a little clumsy at times because of the number of bits and bobs involved. That being said, I've never noticed that the service was any worse (if anything, it's often better) than when the flight was operated as QF81/82.

I am guessing the AY service in Y might be more simplified.
Well… AY service is basically LCC, Air Asia style. One tiny cardboard box main and a single alcoholic drink. Everything else has to be paid for. No choice of main in economy, one size fits all. And of course no snack runs.

But it’s little things like how to make drink… having the gin bottle in the vicinity of the cup while you pour the tonic doesn’t make a gin and tonic! 🤣
 
Well… AY service is basically LCC, Air Asia style. One tiny cardboard box main and a single alcoholic drink. Everything else has to be paid for. No choice of main in economy, one size fits all. And of course no snack runs.

But it’s little things like how to make drink… having the gin bottle in the vicinity of the cup while you pour the tonic doesn’t make a gin and tonic! 🤣
If they intend to play on the Europe to Australia route in house, they need to step up the catering game if they intend to go up against the existing players. I certainly won’t have them on my if that is the standard.
 
One of QF's media releases states:

"...The gross impact of Same Job Same Pay in FY26 is approximately $95 million, an increase of around $15 million in 2H26, and is expected to mitigate over time..."

This offshoring to SIN is QFi's attempt to bring its costs down, more in line with competitors. On-costs such as Australian superannuation (a significant 12 per cent) can be avoided by using Asian staff based in Asia.

While I hear the argument that living costs are higher in Australia than in many other nations, the trend to basing staff overseas (whether in call centres or as we have here, an airline crew base) is growing.
 
One of QF's media releases states:

"...The gross impact of Same Job Same Pay in FY26 is approximately $95 million, an increase of around $15 million in 2H26, and is expected to mitigate over time..."

This offshoring to SIN is QFi's attempt to bring its costs down, more in line with competitors. On-costs such as Australian superannuation (a significant 12 per cent) can be avoided by using Asian staff based in Asia.

While I hear the argument that living costs are higher in Australia than in many other nations, the trend to basing staff overseas (whether in call centres or as we have here, an airline crew base) is growing.
I question whether establishing a cabin crew base in Singapore is actually going to significantly lower their cost base at first glance as Singapore has a mandatory 17% contribution by the employer to the equivalent of Australia's superannuation in Singapore (known as the CPF account). In addition, salaries in Singapore are not considered low by any measure so there probably are other factors at play here with this decision.

I wonder if they have bigger plans for a hub there (than they do now) ...
 
I wonder if they have bigger plans for a hub there (than they do now) ...
At least to Europe, Sunrise aircraft will avoid Singapore. And can only see one slot at LHR for a consolidated SIN-LHR.

Maybe they might try and bank some other Euro flights using other feeder aircraft?
 
The cost saving won’t be huge compared to say basing crews in Bangkok etc, but it’s still a saving and someone probably got a bonus for coming up with the idea.

There was a TikTok post a little while ago outlining some local salaries in Singapore. Jetstar Asia CC typically made around 2.5-3k per month while Scoot crew had more exposure to allowances so had the ability to go 3-5k. Compare that to an Australian EBA and it’s not far off. Those Thai and Indonesian crews are way way behind those numbers however.

Local Pilot salaries are also quite high compared to the region, Scoot pay it’s E190 pilots more compared to all the E190 operators here, with better take home pay due to tax rates.
 
It's offshoring more jobs away from Australia, chipping away further and further at opportunities for Australians, which isn't something I see worth cheering on, balance sheet treats or not.

Additionally, Singaporean service is not synonymous with SQ service, as anyone who's lived there or spent much time there knows, most of all Singaporeans who are very quick to poke fun at the general lack of "service" culture there in favour of "efficiency."

Having flown Finnair-crewed and QF-crewed many, many times on flights to/from Singapore, on balance I have consistently been underwhelmed by Finnair and much prefer QF's crews, aside from occasional issues.
 
Service will definitely improve, the unions will be jumping up and down however.

Over a longer period it wouldn’t surprise me if they start to mirror the JQ model with using offshore crew for international flights. Finnair obviously do it on Asian flights.
I hope they can be expanded for Hong Kong, Tokyo and Manila flights.
I am sick and tired with those "Australian" crew who are basically racist towards Asian and only personally greet Caucasians depite me and others are both Platinum.
 
It's offshoring more jobs away from Australia, chipping away further and further at opportunities for Australians, which isn't something I see worth cheering on, balance sheet treats or not.

Additionally, Singaporean service is not synonymous with SQ service, as anyone who's lived there or spent much time there knows, most of all Singaporeans who are very quick to poke fun at the general lack of "service" culture there in favour of "efficiency."
I welcome offshoring jobs away from Australia, in particular Australian labour laws and so called "values" are making us extremely uncompetitive and driving cost of living up so much.
I cannot see a future of a country where those "values" are turning us away from the reality, and making our country more expensive, and unaffordable to all.
 

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