QC member denied lounge entry.

[Buzzard]

You would think Qantas would have sorted this out before the joint venture went through.

 

[eastwest101]

You would have throught so too. I was also very curious as to why the QC would possibly be closed at 6:30pm in a major airport like MEL. Seems to be a case of "Hey - 1952 called and they want their business practices back!" But it seems to be too difficult for the biggest airline in the country to keep a Lounge open long enough to take care of their codeshare passengers. I don't think its unreasonable to expect the QC to be open at 630pm in Melbourne.......

 

[basso]

So an EK flight number (marketed) and/or EK operated ? Who booked through is irelevant

I don't think it would have matter what the flight number was.

 

[RickyT84]

You would have throught so too. I was also very curious as to why the QC would possibly be closed at 6:30pm in a major airport like MEL. Seems to be a case of "Hey - 1952 called and they want their business practices back!" But it seems to be too difficult for the biggest airline in the country to keep a Lounge open long enough to take care of their codeshare passengers. I don't think its unreasonable to expect the QC to be open at 630pm in Melbourne.......

The MEL Int J Lounge can be closed at 6:30pm as there are no QF departures after this time. Both MH and CX have their own lounge in MEL to cater for their own (and each other's) evening flights and so does EK. Passengers on JQ are also missing out as well but then again access for passengers on JQ are always subject to the Intl J lounge being open. Not sure about access for QF codeshare passengers travelling on FJ.

 

[Austman]

Not sure about access for QF codeshare passengers travelling on FJ.

No lounge.

 

[ajw373]

That would be 'nice' .. since QP members have been royally screwed in relation to European lounge access by the end of the JSA with BA and the takeover by EK.

Half right. The lack of lounge access has nothing to do with what you incorrectly refer to as the EK take over. The problems with BA started long before that happened. Who knows it may well have been BA's inability to play ball that lead Qantas to EK.

 

[moa999]

Agreed, the rot for QP members started when BA began renaming its Terraces to Galleries...

But at the end of the day it was the Qantas Club, and not the Qantas, British Airways and American Airlines Club, and as per the T&Cs lounges, including for example Gold Coast, do come and go.

 

[TheInsider]

Just confirming that the MEL T2 Business Lounge is now open until 2130 (or when EK407 departs).

This is only on a trial basis for 2 months and if no one uses it, then it will revert back to the original times.

The main reason for this current change is supposed EK lounge overcrowding for their A380 direct service.

 

[UP4014]

If QF are selling tickets then I would expect the lounge to be open. What, they want the money but not offer the full package they promote.

I fly the other two routes now, over the top or via the US with a stop over. Even though I don't fly international out of Melbourne I go out in sympathy and use alternatives to the QF offering of EK.

Matt

 

[serfty]

Just confirming that the MEL T2 Qantas Club is now open until 2130 (or when EK407 departs).

...

by Qantas club I'd assume you mean the business lounge.

I guess the Flounge will still close after QF133.

TBH, if I were SG I'd still use the EK lounge if I had a choice.

 

[TheInsider]

by Qantas club I'd assume you mean the business lounge.

I guess the Flounge will still close after QF133.

TBH, if I were SG I'd still use the EK lounge if I had a choice.

Sorry, all been fixed.

F Lounge won't re-open.

 

[timster]

Half right. The lack of lounge access has nothing to do with what you incorrectly refer to as the EK take over. The problems with BA started long before that happened. Who knows it may well have been BA's inability to play ball that lead Qantas to EK.

One person's "enhancement" is another person's "takeover".

For the record I never saw any of BA's apparent hard-balling in the last few years of the JSA. Never refused entry to a lounge at LHR T5 or on the continent even when I did not satisfy the supposed "new rules" (same day connection from Asia inbound/outbound to Europe). The only annoyance was lack of admission to the "third party" lounges BA used in some euro ports. Others' mileage may have varied.

And prior to that I had been in most of BA's lounges all over the continent for 20 years.

Regardless, indeed the EK deal may well have been precipitated by BA. Would be nice if some real insiders would tell the story here.

In any case, the value of QP has been undermined by QF's failure to achieve maintenance of member privileges after the EK deal. If they can now achieve those privileges again by negotiating with airlines other than their supposed partner , that would be "nice".

 

[Aussie_flyer]

once upon a time not all that long ago Qantas actually flew out of Melbourne on international flights AFTER DARK!!! To London and everything.... seems a distant memory

 

[ajw373]

One person's "enhancement" is another person's "takeover".

For the record I never saw any of BA's apparent hard-balling in the last few years of the JSA. Never refused entry to a lounge at LHR T5 or on the continent even when I did not satisfy the supposed "new rules" (same day connection from Asia inbound/outbound to Europe). The only annoyance was lack of admission to the "third party" lounges BA used in some euro ports. Others' mileage may have varied.

And prior to that I had been in most of BA's lounges all over the continent for 20 years.

Regardless, indeed the EK deal may well have been precipitated by BA. Would be nice if some real insiders would tell the story here.

In any case, the value of QP has been undermined by QF's failure to achieve maintenance of member privileges after the EK deal. If they can now achieve those privileges again by negotiating with airlines other than their supposed partner , that would be "nice".

Firstly, no matter which way you look at it EK has not taken over Qantas

Secondly, if you read these very pages you will find some good threads about lounge access in Europe for Qantas Club members and the stop, negotiations and work arounds (ie only allowing access when coming on connecting flights etc). These all very much pre-date the EK alliance. If you got access good for you, but as mentioned you will find pages and pages of complaints on this very board. But hey I guess that doesn't support your argument so it didn't happen. EK and their 'takeover' is to blame hey, no matter the truth?

 

[BD1959]

if you read these very pages you will find some good threads about lounge access in Europe for Qantas Club members and the stop, negotiations and work arounds (ie only allowing access when coming on connecting flights etc).

As a Qantas Customer, I shouldn't need to read the (unauthorised) pages on a Forum to understand what Qantas are offering as part of the blingy-new world of the QF-EK Partnership, Qantas themselves should be transparent. Unfortunately, the breathless excitement of the banner headlines is often less substantial when you read/experience the detail - unfortunately this seems to be an emerging trend at QF.

[h=1]Qantas and Emirates
[/h]Together connecting the globe
Two of the world's leading airlines have formed a global partnership.
Qantas and Emirates fly 14 times a day from Australia to Dubai, and provide 'one-stop' access to destinations across Europe, the Middle East and North Africa.
We offer the largest shared A380 network, exceptional lounges here and abroad and award-winning service - a truly aligned travel experience.
Some Qantas codeshare services operated by Emirates remain subject to government and regulatory approvals and will be rolled out progressively in 2013.


[h=1]Our Network[/h]A seamless travel experience
Together, Qantas and Emirates offer one of the most comprehensive international networks in the world.
Flying through Dubai on Qantas and Emirates' 98 A380 and B777 flights per week from Adelaide, Brisbane, Melbourne, Perth and Sydney, you can then connect to more than 65 cities in Europe, the Middle East and North Africa.
This includes seven daily A380 services to London Heathrow, and daily A380 flights to Paris, Rome, Munich, Amsterdam, Manchester and Moscow - a total of over 800 flights per week.

[h=1]Lounges[/h]Access to more lounges across the world
Eligible Skywards Members and Qantas Frequent Flyers as well as travellers in premium cabins have access to Emirates and Qantas Lounges.
This includes access to Emirates' First Class and Business Class Lounges in Concourse A in Dubai Terminal 3 and Qantas' award-winning First Lounges in Sydney and Melbourne, as well as Qantas and Emirates Lounges in Australia, Europe, the Middle East and North Africa.


A seemless Network* .... *unless you happen to be QC ....


Regards,

BD

 

[ajw373]

As a Qantas Customer, I shouldn't need to read the (unauthorised) pages on a Forum to understand what Qantas are offering as part of the blingy-new world of the QF-EK Partnership, Qantas themselves should be transparent. Unfortunately, the breathless excitement of the banner headlines is often less substantial when you read/experience the detail - unfortunately this seems to be an emerging trend at QF.

I didn't suggest you or anyone else for that matter should read this board to find out what Qantas is offering and of course what QC get under the EK alliance is not what was offered before with BA. That is beside the point.

My comment to read these boards was aimed at an individual (not you) who is making the false statement that the lack of QC access in BA lounges was as a direct result of the EK-QF alliance. He was also denying there were issues before this alliance. A read of the threads I am refering to will refute these claims, authorised or otherwise.

 

[BD1959]

My comment to read these boards was aimed at an individual (not you) who is making the false statement that the lack of QC access in BA lounges was as a direct result of the EK-QF alliance. He was also denying there were issues before this alliance. A read of the threads I am refering to will refute these claims, authorised or otherwise.

Point taken - but then I wasn't directing my ire at yourself, but at QF. But one small point: in his original post timster stated:

QP members have been royally screwed in relation to European lounge access by the end of the JSA with BA and the takeover by EK.(my bolding)

To my mind that read that doesn't mean timster didn't recognize issues before the EK-QF JV, quite the opposite.

Regards,

BD