Qantas unveils the biggest changes to status in program history

[TeaKozy]

But QF can and will remove Chairman’s lounge access (if one/more at the company had that) if the company is no longer spending enough even if the execs fly QF and keep e.g. SG/WP/P1

No doubt. However my experience has been that travel policy is strictly enforced for the peons, whereas those senior tend to do whatever they want. Whether or not execs have CL, I doubt they’d be forced to adhere to this new policy. Besides I doubt Jayne would be invited anytime soon.

Right - I’m sure it has nothing to do with the fact that Jayne Hrdlicka is the new CEO and Managing Director of Endeavour Group…

Absolutely not. Nor that she still has a stack of shares locked up.

 

[Mr_Tee]

In my view it would be a very brave Endeavour Executive who continued to book QF flights on the corporate tab simply to retain status and privilege with QF/OW now that the corporate account has gone to VA.

 

[justinbrett]

Right - I’m sure it has nothing to do with the fact that Jayne Hrdlicka is the new CEO and Managing Director of Endeavour Group…

Or the fact she appointed Bain to conduct their savings review

 

[dairyfloss]

So people are getting their Points Club renewed for 2 years until 2028 if they’ve already started a new membership year this year?

Probably a better question for the PC thread, but that's the hope! I qualified PC+ earlier in the year and that will run until the end of Aug 2027... but, I also have EDR value and other transfers planned plan to lock in PC in my first month (Sep) of the new membership year, and hopefully that will add a PC membership year, pushing it to Aug 2028.

 

[justinbrett]

So people are getting their Points Club renewed for 2 years until 2028 if they’ve already started a new membership year this year?

Not quite, it's people who have membership years that start before the changes - if they can qualify before the cut off date (yet to be announced), they will keep the benefits until 2028.

Anybody with a current PC membership today has it until at least 2027, and if they requalify they'll get it an extra year to 2028. This is completely normal and not a special gift from QF. This is how most annual status programs work - it just sounds a long way until the future, but if this was an ongoing program you'd have to requalify in 2027 to extend it another year to 2029.

 

[esseeeayeenn]

From today’s Fin Review

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I must admit, now that there are almost no wide bodies on domestic routes, there isn't much reason to prefer QF.
I remain with them for one reason and one reason only; their OneWorld membership.
OWE is still worth more than any status with Virgin.

 

[I love to travel]

Apologies if this is up thread, but is there any date for the status credit rollover start? Also, just to be clear, if you are silver - which to requal is 250 and you have 260 for the year - it is 5 that get rolled over? I wonder how it works for lifetime silver - which figure will be used 250 or 300(the latter is the attain for the first time figure)

 

[oz_mark]

Apologies if this is up thread, but is there any date for the status credit rollover start? Also, just to be clear, if you are silver - which to requal is 250 and you have 260 for the year - it is 5 that get rolled over? I wonder how it works for lifetime silver - which figure will be used 250 or 300(the latter is the attain for the first time figure)

No data has been announced for when the rollover will begin. When it does being it will be based on the excess over the attain goal for the tier. Noting, of course, that the attain and requal amounts will be the same. For Silver it will be 25% that rollover.

End result, it will be 25% of the excess over 300 Status Credits.

 

[SYD]

Apologies if this is up thread, but is there any date for the status credit rollover start? Also, just to be clear, if you are silver - which to requal is 250 and you have 260 for the year - it is 5 that get rolled over? I wonder how it works for lifetime silver - which figure will be used 250 or 300(the latter is the attain for the first time figure)

At post #710, @Mattg suggested 12 mths notice for new thresholds and presumably rollover SCs.

I'm hearing that, once Points Club is removed, the ability to earn status credits on Classic Rewards will be unlocked through one of Qantas' credit card partners.

Also, I'm expecting that Qantas will give at least 12 months of notice before increasing the "retain status" thresholds to match the "attain" thresholds. This means that, if you're currently trying to renew status for this membership year, you can expect that you'll only need the lower "retain" amount of status credits. The new, higher retain thresholds are likely to come into effect in late 2027, with an exact date to be announced later this year.

With no announcements due until “late 2027”, I’m working on the assumption I’ll have the existing threshold come 01 Aug 2026 and zero rollover (other than PC+). At some point QF will spill the beans on the full details and for me, those changes kick in from 01 Aug 2027 (but no rollover until Jul/Aug 2028). But at least I’ll have 6+ months to plan.

Anyone with an anniversary date in Q4 of 2026 might have think quick on their feet or have already been planning towards the revised thresholds/rollovers starting in their next member year.

 

[RooFlyer]

Anyone with an anniversary date in Q4 of 2026 might have think quick on their feet or have already been planning towards the revised thresholds/rollovers starting in their next member year.

I followed your logic on availability of delayed use of rollover (1 Aug 2028 for 1 Aug 2027 with new threshold), but not the quoted text. For a Q4 announcement, no behaviour change re SC accumulation will be necessary until calendar 2027, I think?

I'm 1 March '27 for my next new year, so am assuming surplus SCs until then are wasted and anticipating even those until March '28?

 

[SYD]

I followed your logic on availability of delayed use of rollover (1 Aug 2028 for 1 Aug 2027 with new threshold), but not the quoted text. For a Q4 announcement, no behaviour change re SC accumulation will be necessary until calendar 2027, I think?

I'm 1 March '27 for my next new year, so am assuming surplus SCs until then are wasted and anticipating even those until March '28?

I was just suggesting that anyone with a Nov/Dec (and maybe Oct) anniversary may wake up one morning just prior to their anniversary to hear that they’re on the new regime starting very soon.

But the headline changes were announced a while back, so you’d hope those folks have given it some thought?

A bit of a pity for SYD+1 and I, we will finish the year with 700+ excess SCs. Plus we went for PC+ for a first and last time, those 100 SCs rollover won’t be essential to reach 1200 again based on forward bookings/plans.

 

[transpactraveller]

Is it logical to expect the rollovers to start in the same year that the renewal thresholds are increased?

My membership year is until the end of September, so assume I start in October 2026 without a rollover, then my renewal up until September 2027 should be at the old target? And once rollovers begin, then anyone who starts the year with a rollover would be on the new higher target?

 

[mviy]

I do wonder if Project Sunrise as well as the expected price premium, may come with more SCs. If that is the plan raising the retention thresholds could be to avoid making it too easy to retain e.g. Platinum.

 

[SYD]

I do wonder if Project Sunrise as well as the expected price premium, may come with more SCs. If that is the plan raising the retention thresholds could be to avoid making it too easy to retain e.g. Platinum.

I’d be surprised if that will be the case. They’re already saying the “price premium” will be similar to the existing ULR flights passing thru / ex PER.

Is it logical to expect the rollovers to start in the same year that the renewal thresholds are increased?

My membership year is until the end of September, so assume I start in October 2026 without a rollover, then my renewal up until September 2027 should be at the old target? And once rollovers begin, then anyone who starts the year with a rollover would be on the new higher target?

Actually, I’m pondering my logic/thinking regarding when the SC rollover feature will start.

If the “rollover” is intended to partially offset the higher thresholds, then presumably if someone starts a new year on say 01 Mar 27 (eg @RooFlyer), then you’d expect to start the year (01 Mar 27) with some rollover if you exceeded the threshold up to end of Feb 2027? The hole in that best case scenario is, if I recall correctly - the rollover thresholds are based on the new retain targets. If Rooflyer retains WP with say 1300 SCs, that’s 100 excess under the old scheme but zero under the new…

For now, I’ll continue to assume worse case scenario that rollovers will start at the end of my first year with new targets (that could be tough for many) but will hope for getting them early so plan accordingly.

 

[RooFlyer]

If the “rollover” is intended to partially offset the higher thresholds,

How strongly do you think that they are related that way? I always thought they were separate components of the new program.

 

[SYD]

How strongly do you think that they are related that way? I always thought they were separate components of the new program.

I recall reading it somewhere - perhaps that was just speculation?

The rollover is definitely replacing Loyalty Bonuses (QF’s own words on their website). Sort of replaces PC+ but that’s definitely not like for like.