Qantas swaps Upcoming Flight A330 for A321XLR

[esseeeayeenn]

Personally couldn't give a toss whether domestic or international are crewing - though I do miss the JetConnect crews. On the other hand I do care about the overnight (almost) bolt upright ... and to that I'm pretty sure it's only the DPS-MEL from your list that meets that unhealthy criteria.

Regards,

BD

Maybe but did you note the word "supplied"?
There are implications for the soft product as well.

 

[BD1959]

Maybe but did you note the word "supplied"?

Maybe not, subtlety ain't my forte!

Regards,

BD

 

[XavierP]

You mean lie non-flat like on MEL-DPS 737? - has been this way for a number of years ... hardly something QF is "introducing".

Regards,

BD

Nope, was JUST referring to new MNL flights and future long distance international routes.

 

[MelbFlyer]

While I am not a great fan of the A321, I think they are partially responsible for the $299 J sale fares. With 20 J seats, it's much easier to justify for QF revenue management to give some of them away at a lower price point to fill the cabin.

I'm not a fan of narrowbodies for anything above 3-4hrs, but I guess if a "business" (in inverted commas intentionally) class fare is $299 for something like MEL-PER or MEL-DPS (unlikely though), I'd be able to compromise with a non-lay flat seat.

 

[AuSammy]

Pondering. What are the chances of a xCAT appeal against Qantas selling one product and delivering another (yes I know it’s in the T&Cs but they are not the decider of fairness in a court).

 

[AustraliaPoochie]

sNope, was JUST referring to new MNL flights and future long distance international routes.

As we know, QF is slowly getting rid of the 330,s and the 350s and the 787s they aim for further afield.
So, we have no choice, really, as in future, it will all be the narrow 321xlr.
Very rare to see 787 on the dom flights, and even close by int flights, and they are also prone to do swaps of the 787s on dom flights to the 737/321/320.
Give it a look now, all the trans Aus from and to PER, 99.9% are all now narrow body sub par, esp on the 4.5 or more hrs, J not so bad, but ouchy in Y, esp red eyes coming back from PER to MEL/SYD, dep PER just prior to midnight.
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Pondering. What are the chances of a xCAT appeal against Qantas selling one product and delivering another (yes I know it’s in the T&Cs but they are not the decider of fairness in a court).

All the (state) CATs tribunals, will side with QF as they will say, its a commercial decision of the airline.
Most likely, you wont win a case.

 

[moa999]

QF has unfortunately been swapping flat beds to recliners, or suites to older sky beds in the past, for a long time.

 

[elanshin]

As we know, QF is slowly getting rid of the 330,s and the 350s and the 787s they aim for further afield.
So, we have no choice, really, as in future, it will all be the narrow 321xlr.

Hardly the 787-10 are going to be doing asia trunk route work, its the 787-9s that are doing long missions. Id guess that if QF had more 787-9s they'd be flying them all over asia as well.

You forget that the 330s have no Premium Economy which on some of the asian routes has traditionally been there and always a strong market for it (think Singapore, Hong Kong and Tokyo).

Manilla honestly is a weird case. I suspect BNE-MNL would be better off as a JQ route than QF and it was launched as part of redeploying the 330 that was flying to PVG. (But JQ doesn't exactly have more planes either).

The main concern here is more that QF is setting a precedent rather than this route itself which honestly I don't think made huge amount of sense. (And if CR and business booking codes over the past year I've spotted are anything to go by, it's likely not justified either in a 330).

Very rare to see 787 on the dom flights, and even close by int flights, and they are also prone to do swaps of the 787s on dom flights to the 737/321/320.

787s are doing regular transcon. Just not out of the domestic terminals. They're much more reliable than the 330s which could subbed out at any moments notice. Its a much bigger problem when the 787s aren't going transcon as it means a flight like PER-FCO isn't running.

We're just temporarily having one of the routes running via SIN instead of PER at the moment.

 

[fletty]

I took a 787 from Brisbane to Sydney last year, it was repositioning after the Antarctica scenic flights.
That was a pretty interesting experience.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

Pondering. What are the chances of a xCAT appeal against Qantas selling one product and delivering another (yes I know it’s in the T&Cs but they are not the decider of fairness in a court).

Have we had any cases yet where qantas has refused to re-route or refund?

Traditionally I think the argument has been ‘business class = business class’… but I dunno if that would hold as much these days. The case in NZ against Emirates was successful where one product was advertised, but not delivered.

Here Qantas clearly shows a flat bed as available at the time of booking. Which I think is material for a longer flight rather than say NZ?