Qantas Project Sunrise goes ahead, 12 new A350-1000s ordered

The ideal way to do this is a long sleep I the last 6-8 hrs into London.
That is the theory but the body clock will keep the passengers awake

lights out, shut up, sleep and don't bother us. We'll feed you when we feel like it.
Flying in darkness the entire way until landing for most of the year - if flying West

Potential double sunrise if over polar route - apparently 20%

The middle meal service should theoretically be over Singapore (midnight in SYD) and then lights out until 3hrs before LHR.

Over the polar the middle meal should be northern pacific at the first sunrise.

science is not going to trump commercial realities. If QF really want to mitigate jet lag, they would find a LHR landing slot after 8am "so that breakfast is served around 0500-0600am and not at 0200-0300 am lhr time
 
science is not going to trump commercial realities. If QF really want to mitigate jet lag, they would find a LHR landing slot after 8am "so that breakfast is served around 0500-0600am and not at 0200-0300 am lhr time
Exactly.

But that’s part of a much bigger issue for airpines scheduling flight times that suit them, not the passenger. Take Bali for example… arrive 9pm so you’ve missed your whole first day, and then depart at 10pm so you have to pay for a whole extra day. Suits no one except the airline.

Same with a 5am arrival into London. Who does that suit?

There’s no single authority on jet lag anyway. One camp says to put yourself on the destination time zone. The other says to sleep and eat when you feel like it.

neither one has proven 100% successful.
 
neither one has proven 100% successful.
There is a lot of "science" but not much in terms of outcome studies outside of the lab.
Me thinks QF is just dropping the word "science" for marketing purposes.
Paying someone to do research on your product is not exactly robust science.

Same with a 5am arrival into London. Who does that suit?
Up to six passengers.
 
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Same with a 5am arrival into London. Who does that suit?

They actually explained this, it's to mitigate congestion delays.

Later in the morning they're more likely to face holding - landing that early they've got the best chance of not being held up.
 
They actually explained this, it's to mitigate congestion delays.

Later in the morning they're more likely to face holding - landing that early they've got the best chance of not being held up.
Sure, but that’s not likely to be a consideration from the passenger perspective. Who wants to get to their hotel in London in winter at 6am?
 

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