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Random question that occurred to me when travelling in Y on the tram this morning....
If one was P1, then earned 0 SC's the next year, would they have a soft landing to WP,or to SG? I am presuming/guessing WP, but I just wondered if anyone knew? (I know what JohnK's answer will be : "It doesn't matter, WP and SG are merging" )
You'd drop to WP.
If you have another year after that with just 4~ you'll retain WP with as little as 40 SC. essentially meaning a 2 year soft landing with only a few targets required.
What this means is if you can't keep p1 there is little benefit of crediting any flights to QFF for 2 years as anything more than 4~ is wasted effort.
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Have come across one CSM when flying in J domestic recently who was adamant that neither WP or WP1's warranted any special treatment and or drinks etc from J as they had not paid for it and this would devalue the J cabin if he were to do it.
So stump up for J or stay in Y and get the same as everyone else was the basic belief.
4~ is required for ANY status attainment, so yeah I see that point perfectly.
I'm yet to hear of someone not getting a soft landing because they didn't have the 4~, and this would seem to be a similar case.
The other is a 3 year average rule with requirements
I understand that, but do we really know that the 4~ requirement is critical there?
Partner may be in a position to find out next year, I guess.
I've seen enough evidence having known more than a handful of ex-P1s including myself....
I can see the 'devalue J' argument, and given it's an unpublished benefit I also don't have a problem with individual CSMs making that call. If a flight is short and there are 10 WPs or P1s in Y, it would consume a lot of time, be quite obvious and awkward.
But for the most part, I reckon it is a nice gesture that doesn't 'cost' much - especially headphones and one glass of wine from a $10 bottle - but generates a lot of goodwill and a positive vibe. I was once on a flight in Y to Cairns (from Melb or Sydney) and was offered wine or a pre-lunch drink, when the announcement had been made about purchasing alcohol in the main cabin. The fellow in the seat near me asked me afterwards what that was about - I explained the benefits of higher tiers (think I was P1), he was Gold - he came away with a good vibe about QF treating upper tiers well. Surely a positive for QF.
My concern from posts of late and my own experience is when WPs have been offered something extra but P1s miss out. That is when I get frustrated. Is there a system problem which then actually devalues the P1 experience? If it happens again to me I'll ask the CSM (maybe the others are actually CLs?) or maybe it is a problem the crew can't see a P1. No harm in asking and getting a straight answer from the CSM at the time.
I do believe trippin_the_rift knows from personal (first-hand) experienceOK, that's all I was asking. So you know people who didn't get the extra year, and that was because they hadn't done the four flights?
LOL. I love random thoughts. Platinum/Gold. Same same. Much of a muchness.Random question that occurred to me when travelling in Y on the tram this morning....
If one was P1, then earned 0 SC's the next year, would they have a soft landing to WP,or to SG? I am presuming/guessing WP, but I just wondered if anyone knew? (I know what JohnK's answer will be : "It doesn't matter, WP and SG are merging" )
Onboard greeting - I am in the camp of people who love this. It is hit and miss but happens more times than not. Had a new variation the other week, CSM offered a drink (thank you!) brought back Y wine... thanks but I could have waited the 3 mins until service, I'm in the first row
If there are other perks, I can't seem to remember them
Except when you get to a lounge.LOL. I love random thoughts. Platinum/Gold. Same same. Much of a muchness.
Indeed. A highly significant distinction.Except when you get to a lounge.
From a newly (due to demotion) created SG.
with regard to 4~ rule... am currently P1 but this period have flown all on points domestically and overseas and hence no ~
I am well aware that qantas has a unpublished soft landing policy for tier downgrades but does this apply to platinum ones?
If a Platinum One member is unable to attain 3,600 Status credits (including a minimum 2,700 on QF marketed Flights) in their next membership year, they will be automatically reassessed to the Platinum level regardless how many status credits they earned. Hope this helps.