Qantas: 'one of the worst airlines in the free world'

[love_the_life]

It looks like Qantas is now offering protein with their salads in the SYD International Business Lounge.

Oh for goodness sake. These things happen. It's unfortunate IMO that we have come down to this 'compensation' mentality about every little thing.

 

[drron]

Yes her meal was free.All that would happen in any restaurant.And QF said sorry.That's all that is needed.

 

[GoldCanyon340]

So it’s the worms leaving the lounge floor in a mess. All is solved.

 

[RichardMEL]

to be fair the state of the floor in some of SFO777's photos was more than "just a few crumbs"

but again, while the staff could/should do a better job to keep the joint clean, some of the slobs and yobbos who leave the cough everywhere bear some responsibility too. It kind of annoys me that some people treat lounges like .. I don't know.. like their homes.. put their feet up on the furniture, drop cough everywhere etc. This kind of behaviour and lack of consideration for other or the space they are using annoys me way more than people wearng thongs or other "banned" items under the dress code.

but I digress

 

[Danielb56]

Seems to be a bit of a common theme in some comments:





Seems its way too much of an effort or bother to read the original trip report on Flyertalk, or indeed the entirety of this thread, but then an opinion is offered anyway! So these posters don't have the time to read the trip report, but have found the time to criticize the author of the trip report without knowing what the content of the trip report is...

Well when some puts their whole holiday log that is like a book long on a blog site deserves not to be fully read... I think we got the gist of it without reading it all.

 

[Danielb56]

I laughed over those carrots as well.

I've been in a few AA lounges and I think I prefer a grubby Qantas lounge (or even better a clean one0

Every AA lounge I have been in is not worthy or comparitive to ONE WORLD Lounges around the world. I even put Srilankan Airlines Business Lounger higher...

 

[Denali]

This thread...

 

[drron]

Every AA lounge I have been in is not worthy or comparitive to ONE WORLD Lounges around the world. I even put Srilankan Airlines Business Lounger higher...

Then you haven't been in the right ones.
Basically a flagship lounge in the USA is better than a QF domestic J lounge.
I also like the AA lounge at NRT-prefer it to the QF lounge.not as cluttered and better plane spotting.

 

[RichardMEL]

Then you haven't been in the right ones.
Basically a flagship lounge in the USA is better than a QF domestic J lounge.
I also like the AA lounge at NRT-prefer it to the QF lounge.not as cluttered and better plane spotting.

yes, but, as discussed earlier it's not fair to compare apples and oranges. Besides SFO777 commented that he longed for the likes of an AAdmirals Club or United Club (paraphrasing.. can't be bothered to go find the exact qute.. but he certainly was not talking about the Flagship lounge.

And it's also not fair IMHO because AA has no equivalent to the domestic J lounge. It's either the AAdmirals club, which is below QC standard (well maybe not HBA lol) and then there are the Flaship lounges at the main hubs but when flying domestic J the only way you can access those is by using a non-AA OWE status (eg: QF WP, BA Gold). AA elites can't access them nor can any pax even in paid domestic J (yes I know 3 class F is different, but let's just stick to *trying* to compare green apples with red apples).

To me, a QF J passenger, either paid for or with OWE (and/or QF WP+) status can get into a domestic J lounge(where they exist) in Oz.. compared to an AA J passenger who can only get into the AAdmirals Club through a) non-AA OWS/OWE status or a club membership or paid day pass). QF wins since any old schmo either paying for J or using points to upgrade/reward seat can access the lounge, and bonus they don't have to pay for booze or what food there is.

AA Flagship different product only available to a select few and I do not believe it is fair to compare. It's like, in a way, how SFO777 was denied entry to the CL at SYD. Only a select few can access that lounge (which is more like your flagship lounge really).

The AAverage AA domestic lounge? (remember, the whole conversation is about domestic lounges) really are pretty poor cousins to the average QC. I'd much rather sit in ADL than in AA DFW C or D (IIRC) or AA's SFO club which are ones I've personally used recently (ATL and CLT next month)

my 48c worth (again!)

 

[TonyHancock]

.... AA elites can't access them nor can any pax even in paid domestic J....

I thought AA Exec Plats got access when flying on domestic flights connecting to an international qualifying flight......but your point is valid about the comparison.

 

[RichardMEL]

I thought AA Exec Plats got access when flying on domestic flights connecting to an international qualifying flight......but your point is valid about the comparison.

yes that is correct - the key being when connecting to Int flights (UA is the same). Same as AA Plat (OWS) can use the AAdmiral's Clubs too when connecting to international. Again, that is a different situation to the issue of domestic flights.

 

[drron]

Yes but there are only 4 QF J lounges.
And IMHO the ACs are really not below QP standards.The food in QPs really isn't that great.And if outside the capitals excluding HBA the QPs really don't rate.
Besides I and a few others only get access to J lounges due to other than QF OWE status.

 

[dajop]

Yes but there are only 4 QF J lounges.
And IMHO the ACs are really not below QP standards.The food in QPs really isn't that great.And if outside the capitals excluding HBA the QPs really don't rate.

In the last 5 years I've only visited on AC once (mid 2017, ORD). It was huge step up from what I remember them to be like, over a number of visits at various ports in the previous 10 years. Maybe the memories of the old AC's with their pay/voucher-only alcohol* & celery/cheese sticks are etched in people's memories.

* as opposed to now where basic spirits etc are offered free of charge

 

[amaroo]

Stay Calm and Carry On ..... the Dyson has arrived

 

[Denali]

and its a Dyson stick?

 

[Pushka]

and its a Dyson stick?

They don’t make the other kind anymore.

 

[RichardMEL]

In the last 5 years I've only visited on AC once (mid 2017, ORD). It was huge step up from what I remember them to be like, over a number of visits at various ports in the previous 10 years. Maybe the memories of the old AC's with their pay/voucher-only alcohol* & celery/cheese sticks are etched in people's memories.

* as opposed to now where basic spirits etc are offered free of charge

fully admit I'm working mostly to the memories of the celery sticks, paid bars and yeah salty pretzel type stacks as the mainstays in AC's (much like UA clubs).

So, I will be visiting some AC's in a month and will be most interested in what I find.

IIRC I had thought more basic stuff was available, like a house wine and the like and the more decent stuff one had to pay for.
Hopefully the food situation is better than in the past too. I am more optimistic

 

[MEL_Traveller]

fully admit I'm working mostly to the memories of the celery sticks, paid bars and yeah salty pretzel type stacks as the mainstays in AC's (much like UA clubs).

So, I will be visiting some AC's in a month and will be most interested in what I find.

IIRC I had thought more basic stuff was available, like a house wine and the like and the more decent stuff one had to pay for.
Hopefully the food situation is better than in the past too. I am more optimistic

I was at CLT a couple months ago and as an example of a very basic Admirals Club it was spacious, lots of private seating, choice of two soups, cheeses, some salad vegetables (I think carrot and celery sticks ) and a 'live' food station with an attendant making nachos to order (with half a dozen toppings available). Free, open bar.

It was spotlessly clean.

Yeah, a basic Qantas club equivalent may have had a couple extra food choices, but overall the peace and quiet and ambience of the lounge made it pretty good.

 

[Kangol]

I Disagree ... generally the review is accurate.

Those who concentrate on the hypebole are ignoring the pointed facts about what qantas is these days.

Accurate, but not representative.

This is a typical case of:
What You See Is All There Is

The sad thing is, many people who may not have rational cognitive ability will believe what he is saying is the complete truth without considering any alternative(s). Too much confidence.

His style of report in the past has been good, however.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

Accurate, but not representative.

This is a typical case of:
What You See Is All There Is

The sad thing is, many people who may not have rational cognitive ability will believe what he is saying is the complete truth without considering any alternative(s). Too much confidence.

His style of report in the past has been good, however.

Well, I can confirm - for those people who may not have rational cognitive ability - that SFO77 is largely correct in his observations and they are fairly representative or a typical experience flying QF. Perhaps the those of lesser cognitive ability might actually take one flight and think it was the best they've ever had. And good on them. They were lucky

I dunno how many times QF fans can come up with excuses on behalf of QF.