Qantas Market Research Phone Survey

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I can't seem to see if anyone has raised this already.

Last night 7pm-ish was called by a market research firm on behalf of Qantas.
I was told Qantas gave them my details (an unlisted home number).

They ran through a series of questions about Qantas which also included Virgin, Jetsar & Tiger.
Many of the questions were "on a rating of 1 to 10 ..." plus there were some general questions about business vs personal travel etc, the frequent flyer scheme, what I had seen in the press, my thoughts of Qantas, if I felt safe when on a Qantas plane vs other etc etc.

I was told my responses were not linked to my name in anyway.

Took about 15 mins to do.
 
I was told Qantas gave them my details (an unlisted home number).

I would have asked them for all their details, hung up, called the WP desk and spent the next 15 minutes blasting the H**L out of QF for giving out my unlisted and no longer private phone number. Wonder what other info QF disclosed?
 
I would have asked them for all their details, hung up, called the WP desk and spent the next 15 minutes blasting the H**L out of QF for giving out my unlisted and no longer private phone number. Wonder what other info QF disclosed?


I'm sure there is a box you tick somewhere that say they may use your number for QF purposes which include third parties. But that doesn't stop you complaining about direct to QF.
 
I would have asked them for all their details, hung up, called the WP desk and spent the next 15 minutes blasting the H**L out of QF for giving out my unlisted and no longer private phone number. Wonder what other info QF disclosed?

Have you ever read the privacy policy, that you have contractually agreed to?

In terms of this particular item, you can opt-in to market research activities, and then under the privacy policy you have agreed to have that information sent to a third party provider, in order for them to do that research.
 
Have you ever read the privacy policy, that you have contractually agreed to?

In terms of this particular item, you can opt-in to market research activities, and then under the privacy policy you have agreed to have that information sent to a third party provider, in order for them to do that research.

I never agree to having my private information given out to other parties.
 
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Which might explain why you didnt get a phone call asking you to do a survey ;)

I my experience that is sadly not a guarantee. All it seems to do is to lessen the chance of unauthorized disclosure.
 
I never agree to having my private information given out to other parties.

Well, you better stop flying Qantas. Can't have your information in Amadeus can we. Being a third party and all.
 
Just thought I'd add a bit more now that I've had time to think more of the Q's asked ...

I made it clear on the survey that I have stopped flying Jetstar and will use Qantas & Virgin for my domestic travels.
I was honest in my answers.

I explained I use Qantas & Virgin but am unhappy with Jetstar taking over Qantas routes. If I then have a choice of Virgin or Jetstar after Qantas has departed, I then switch to Virgin. In My mind if Jetstar want to act as a unique company vs co-existing with Qantas (and honouring my Qantas status) then Jetstar is just a LCC with little to no worth to myself. Hence prefer to build status with Virgin.

I also explained how I felt re the pilots / engineers dispute.

There were also questions relating to inflight entertainment, food, staff etc.

Anyway, at the end of the call they did restate the research company name, details on their privacy policy and if I wanted more info on their privacy policy. TBH I can't be bothered.

The survey could just have easily have been a web based survey. So this them makes me thing, why did they really call? (puts tin foil hat back on)
 
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Well, you better stop flying Qantas.

I have. Other than to get the 4 "~"s per year, which I will get via JASAs with points earned flying with other OW carriers.

I also, at one time, had a lot of QF shares. Sold them at A$5.35. Very glad I did, especially after AJ took over and the dividends stopped. I was a VERY loyal QF investor and FFer. But not any more. Which is actually a bit sad to say. I guess you could say I'm a bit bitter with what has happened to what I once saw as the best airline in the world and that I was proud to spend my money and time with.

Probably a good thing they did not phone me.
 
Push polling more like

I was also called by the same people tonight (McNair somethingorother) and asked about my domestic and international travel. All very harmless questions and standard corporate polling about attitudes to brand.


Then it started on recent stories in the media and in particular the recent union disputes. At first I was honest and fairly even in my criticism on both sides, then the questions took a sinister turn and I was being preached to by Qantas management.


I was not very happy about this, so I responded to the first such question with - "Since you put it that way, I disagree entirely". The poor woman on the end of the phone was a bit flummoxed by that and asked if I wanted the question repeated. I told her that I understood the question completely, but since it was s statement disguised as a question I felt forced to respond in the negative to the sentiment. This answer was no better for her tick-a-box approach, so from then on I simply sided 100% with the union and against Qantas.


Survey my cough - it was very crude and insulting push polling, and has now alienated me against their current actions with the unions.
 
I used to work for the company that does these polls - but they have since moved their work to McNair.

It's legit, they are contracted by Qantas, they've been doing it for quite some time, it's not always about the union - it's about everything: Qantas in the media, how important is safety, frequent flyer status, etc etc.

1. Someone asked why they do it by phone and not by web survey:
Usually such research takes plus by phone AND the web -- but not always. Since they are a formal research company, it's important to distinguish between web and phone results. Some people are just not web-centric and can't type, or don't have access to the internet - so sometimes the best way is to just call them.
They also never offer incentives for doing the survey because it would bias the results. Other companies they do research for, such as mobile phone companies, I'm positive that the clients could easily offer incentives of say, $5 credit or 100mb free per survey - but never in all the time I worked there was there EVER an incentive offered for doing a survey - they don't want any bias in their results - either you take the survey and answer honestly, or you don't take it at all.

2. So called "push-polling"
Qantas has been accused recently on this forum of spin-doctoring the current union-strike issue, such as by setting up their website (qantasanswers.com.au). I think it's *possible* that they took the opportunity to, later in the survey, after they've gotten your general opinion on the union-strike issue, put forward their point of view in the form of a statement *disguised* as a question.
Of course if you take offence to their attempt to preach to you about their perspective, you can spend the rest of the survey clearly taking the union's side, but they will weigh this up with your previous answers. The surveys are structured that certain opinions are obtained more than once throughout -- much like certain psychology tests have built-in questions to verify later questions, to ensure that the person isn't randomly selecting answers or suddenly changes their approach.

Bottom line:
On the whole, these surveys are not marketing, they are usually genuine research surveys from Qantas, used to improve and maintain its customer service. The interviewers are not trained to be pushy (and of course there will be some exceptions) and they are not salesman. They do not earn commission on the more surveys they do etc. Their pay is the same whether they do 1 interview or 20 interviews in that shift. It also costs clients like Qantas a fortune - each survey is probably costing them maybe $25 (just a wild estimate - I wasn't on that side of the company). The only unscrupulous thing that may happen is that they take the opportunity to pass on a message to you in the later parts of the survey -- and I'm not saying that's what happened here, I'm only guessing.

Bottom, bottom line:
If you don't want to do the on-the-whole genuine survey, simply say 'No'! :)
 
There was nothing "so called" about the push polling. It was very unsubtle and more befitting a cash-for-comment shock jock. Next time someone rings me up on behalf of Qantas I certainly will refuse to do their so called survey, and I advise others to do the same unless they like being preached to.
 
I was also called last night. They are contracted by QF to do "market research” on my travel and future plans to fly with QF, VA etc. They didn’t have REX as one of their tick boxes :shock: They knew my name, phone number and QF status. :oops:

Firstly I was asked about my domestic and international travel, number of trips and with who.

The sentiment changed to the recent stuff in the media, had I heard, did it effect me was I still going to travel QF. It went on to the more direct questions regarding the international pilots earn $350k per year, forcing that salary on Jet*, Jet connect etc, engineers union, disruption and strike action.

From the fully context of the questions it seems that QF was looking to gauge their ability to withstand industrial action and potentially long term industrial action. Some of the wording was clearly designed to elicit a positive QF and negative union / pilots / media by the use of pre statements of their salary, unions, impact on Jet* fares, QF generally.

I don’t mind answering marketing surveys but I have to say in this situation I don’t think anybody would have liked the answers. I hope it was some lowly person in “communications” that designed the questions and how to survey. If it was senior management then they have a lot to answer for.
 
I got a call about 5:30p the other day at work.
I said no and didn't answer any questions but I thought it mght have been related to the rugby world cup competition i entered a few days earlier. The mobile number was in that entry form.

Cheers.
 
I don't understand their constant carrying on about "pilots earning $350k a year". Ignore the fact that very few of them do, what is actually wrong with this? It's only the senior Captains making this and it includes considerable overtime etc and they make it at best for the last 10 years of their career. For interests sake, JQ aren't that far behind at the top. I know a 330 Captain on just over $300k. What the pilots are upset about is new hires being place on contracts based out of NZ on about NZ$50k a year (without super). I don't know why the union hasn't pushed that a little harder....

When I get to my late 50's/early 60's and retirement is approaching, I'll be pretty upset if I'm not on that kind of coin and just about any other professional, highly skilled person would be as well. Unless Qantas are trying to get the lower socio-economic market onside, which seems an odd choice for a "Premium" airline.

Regardless, sounds like this is yet another petty attack from QF management. Right up there with qantasanswers.com.au....
 
Hmm - strange you guys were getting telephone surveys.

I got a call to invite me to a face to face discussion group for WP QFF. Can't remember which day it was, as I couldn't make it anyway.

Hope I get an invite to another one down the track :)
 
When I get to my late 50's/early 60's and retirement is approaching, I'll be pretty upset if I'm not on that kind of coin and just about any other professional, highly skilled person would be as well.
Off topic, but not really. Most professional, high-skilled people are on considerably less than that - most senior civil engineers, for example, who I think everyone would agree are professional and highly-skilled have a top salary of less than half that - Melbourne Civil Engineering Salary Information at MyCareer

Senior scientists, ditto.

Yes, there are sectors and there are some professions across the board where the top salaries are around $300K, but they're the exception, not the rule.
 
More interesting perhaps than the privacy matter were the survey questions. I had the same survey last Fri arvo and became frustrated quite quickly at the limitations of the available answers. Most of the q's were pretty bland statements to which we could give a scaled reply, but no other comment was entertained, so I took to giving middle of the road replies which wont count for much. If QF wanted some honest answers about what us regulars think then this wasnt the way fwd. Most interesting question was my view on QF joining forces with Emitrates ... hmmmm
 
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