Qantas Group reopens NSW / VIC, thousands of flights added

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In addition to the big mama MEL-SYD being turned back on, Bendigo and Mildura will also see their SYD flights turned back on. Jetstar will also recommence flying to Ballina Byron.

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Qantas and Jetstar add thousands of flights between NSW and Victoria as date set for borders to reopen


The Qantas Group will operate thousands of flights to and from Melbourne and regional Victoria over summer following the New South Wales Government’s decision to open its borders.

From 23 November, Qantas and Jetstar will operate more than 250 flights per week across five routes, offering travellers 48,000 seats between the two states. This compares with just ten return flights per week operating between Melbourne and Sydney (the only route currently operating between NSW and VIC).

Both carriers will look to add more flights quickly if there is sufficient demand.

The flights will see the Qantas Group’s overall domestic capacity increase from around 30 per cent per cent of pre-COVID levels to just under 40 per cent from late November, with more aircraft ‘woken up’ and more employees returning to work to support the additional flying.

As a result of the COVID-19 pandemic, Qantas and Jetstar have introduced a number of initiatives to help customers to book with greater flexibility, including allowing a flight to be moved free of charge, as well as introducing additional health and safety measures through its Fly Well program.

“November 23 will be a day many people will now be looking forward to. It’s exciting for the family and friends who can finally be reunited after months apart.

“It’s also great for businesses, and great for getting more of our planes in the air and more of our people back to work.

When you consider the social and economic impact of border closures, we’ve always said things should open up as soon as it’s safe to do so. New South Wales has led the way in taking a sensible, risk-based approach to borders that’s supported by what is probably one of the best contact tracing programs in the world. It’s great to see New South Wales and Victoria working together on what is a national issue. Queensland and Western Australia are unfortunately taking a different approach, which doesn’t seem based on a realistic assessment of risk.”

 
This is great news for all and well overdue IMHO, but it doesn’t come as any surprise that Qantas is now price gouging from day 1 (Nov 23rd). I just searched for 1 adult MEL-SYD and prices range from $500 - $900+ for a direct ECONOMY seat. Yes, you’re not misreading business class, that’s economy, cheapest price. To their credit though, Qantas is also offering plentiful award seats on those flights so that’d be one of the best ways to use your points for an economy seat based on commercial prices.

Virgin is offering far fewer flights but with reasonable pricing from $200 also with plentiful award availability.
 
I booked a load of much much cheaper flights on QF for our family yesterday as soon as I saw the news (and posted here to give everyone the same heads up!) - clearly they are selling out very fast.

Hopefully QF add more flights.
 
This is great news for all and well overdue IMHO, but it doesn’t come as any surprise that Qantas is now price gouging from day 1 (Nov 23rd). I just searched for 1 adult MEL-SYD and prices range from $500 - $900+ for a direct ECONOMY seat.
Looks like Virgin has added some extra flights as well, they have four flights on Nov 23rd, all have economy seats at $165.
But looking at the QF website I'm seeing Red e-Deal seats for $199 on the 23rd.
 
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Is it QF are being cautious with ramping capacity on mainline until there's clear evidence that business traffic has recovered, instead preferring to put capacity into the system via Jetstar?

A couple of random dates -
SYD-MEL Fri 4th Dec sees 14 JQ services and 11 on QF
MEL-SYD Mon 14th Dec sees 16 JQ service and 12 QF
 
$521 is the lead in Flex price. Having said that, I can see plenty of fares at $199 in both directions on 23 Nov.
I must admit I checked the pricing via ITA Matrix and that reported $500+ which is what I quoted. If the QF website is pricing differently then my bad.
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Gouging, or is the supply limited?
They wouldn’t be offering so many award seats if supply was so limited.
 
Is it QF are being cautious with ramping capacity on mainline until there's clear evidence that business traffic has recovered, instead preferring to put capacity into the system via Jetstar?

A couple of random dates -
SYD-MEL Fri 4th Dec sees 14 JQ services and 11 on QF
MEL-SYD Mon 14th Dec sees 16 JQ service and 12 QF

Agree - cautious ramping up and also this is approaching a very dead time for corporate travel as well, we begin winding down end of November and Dec/Jan are usually mostly leisure.

I must admit I checked the pricing via ITA Matrix and that reported $500+ which is what I quoted. If the QF website is pricing differently then my bad.

That's ok, ITA Matrix can be quite glitchy. Def lots of sub $200 fares there.
 
I guess the other issue with this restart is that of bringing the crews back on line. Whilst there has been some flying of late, it hasn’t been equally shared around the bases, and there would be a need now for many sim sessions, etc. So, it would have to ramp up, not instantly restart. The border closures would have an ongoing effect. For instance, WA crews might have been flying, but they can’t suddenly use them for east coast flights, as they’ll probably run foul of quarantine on return. I’m sure it’s messier than we can imagine.
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They wouldn’t be offering so many award seats if supply was so limited.

They have to pay for those award seats somehow....
 
I guess the other issue with this restart is that of bringing the crews back on line. Whilst there has been some flying of late, it hasn’t been equally shared around the bases, and there would be a need now for many sim sessions, etc. So, it would have to ramp up, not instantly restart.

Would it be easier to ramp up JQ as it has more simple crewing? Or just cheaper? It seems to be ramping up quicker than QF.
 
They have to pay for those award seats somehow....
Sure, but not at the expense of a paying customer. The basic laws of FF schemes and revenue management dictate that most airlines would never offer awards if supply is limited and/or they think they can sell those seats. In this case, they clearly don't think they can sell that many economy seats on these flights hence the ample award availability.
 
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