Qantas-Emirate partnership gives me headaches.

[sacolman]

I don't like that Woolworths (and Coles) have stopped selling some of the brands I prefer. I just take my business eleswhere. If Qantas has decided to provide a product that you don't like, go to one its competitors that will provide the product you desire.

Sure, but I had almost 180,000 Qantas Frequent Flyer points earned over several years. Any suggestions how I can use them other than flying with Qantas?

 

[Princess Fiona]

Sure, but I had almost 180,000 Qantas Frequent Flyer points earned over several years. Any suggestions how I can use them other than flying with Qantas?

Yes,
Read post #16 and #19

 

[SQ421]

Please stop flying Qantas. And please don't tell anyone you are an Australian. I'd hate for the world to think we are all xenophobic bigots.

I might be stupid but I cannot see how the QF-EK partnership is anything other than a nuisance for me. I am awaiting a reply from Mr A Joyce in answer to me two faxes and when he will tell me the answer, (as no doubt I will hear from someone) I will pass it on to you people.

I am going to Budapest from SYD, but want to stop off in Bangkok. It seems that I can go to London, but first I must go to Dubai. I am not too keen to go to any Arab country, but also BA flies direct in 12 hours 05 minutes and going via Dubai I need to take 15 hrs 35 mins. Also the BA flight takes off at 20 minutes after midnight, but to Dubai I have to leave at 02.40, which is a very unfriendly hour to join a flight.

Why as a Frequent Flier can I not book my flight on a BA flight, when I understand that BA will accept my Qantas FF points, even 'though the website of Q FF will not allow me to book on a BA flight. It is most frustrating.

What are my advantages at this hook-up between Qantas and Emirate? I am not entitled to use either of the lounges, which is mentioned as a great advantage and I am not interested to see Dubai's skyscrapers or the masked ladies at Dubai Airport. I do not buy duty-free handbags or jewellery, so why do I need to visit the crowded waiting room in Dubai?

Do tell me why I should be happy at this, to me inconvenient partnership? Next time I will be unpatriotic and, having used up my Qantas points, will fly Korean Air via Seoul, where I will have dinner and breakfast and a room in their 5 star hotel, free of charge and it will cost some hundreds of $'s less.:evil:

 

[ajw373]

I thought that Mr Joyce is the CEO of Qantas who have now become partners of the Saudi Arabian Airline known as Emirate. Mind you I doubt if anybody will answer my faxes.

It is not Saudi, it is the United Arab Emirates, so if your gonna whinge at least get that right otherwise you look like a fool.

 

[atreides]

If you don't like it, vote with your feet. For many people there are a lot of positives, and for a lot there are many negatives. It just depends on your personal circumstances. There isn't much point getting upset, choose an airline that works for you.

Deal with it

I coughed up my coffee when I saw this

 

[SQ421]

I might be stupid

You, good sir, have removed all doubt.

 

[SQ421]

Sure, but I had almost 180,000 Qantas Frequent Flyer points earned over several years. Any suggestions how I can use them other than flying with Qantas?

Give them away. Here.. my FF number is... 19....

 

[SQ421]

Metallic masks? You sure it wasn't the Phantom?

me thinks it was bane..

 

[sacolman]

No doubt you could (as also I did many a time) do this prior to April 2013, ( also to St Petersburg via Helsinki) but it seems that all traffic is being sent through Dubai from April onwards. A number of replies suggest that I could have utilized my 180,000 or so points through British Airways, but it was proven to me and my travel agent that this is not so. Thus flying from Bangkok to London after a stopover it seems that you must go by an Emirate flight to Dubai and hence to any other European City. As there is no direct flight from Dubai to Budapest, I have to take an extra 3 + hours to include Dubai. Seem a lot of hours and contrary to the public relations exercise no advantage to me. I might well be wrong, as is my experienced travel agent, but until Qantas states that you can have a stopover in BKK and go direct to London on a QF or BA flight, I think the traveling public is being short changed by Qantas.

 

[ajw373]

1. I just want to go where I used to go almost every year and before this unfortunate Qantas-Emirate hook up.
2. Budapest is not all that obscure, for instance British Airways flies there 5 time per day with other UK/Irish planes 10 per day. It is somewhat more popular than many Asian capital cities.
3. I earned my Qantas Frequent Flyer points, all 167,600 of them, so why should I not be allowed to use them?
4. Maybe the person who commented can advise where else but through Qantas Frequent Flyers can I spend my points, if not through Q FF

Response to the above.

1. The world changes, some win some like you loose.

2. It is an obscure destination for Australians to be travelling to, so it is all relative.

3. No one is stopping you using those points, and you will find when your earned them there was no gurantee you could use them when ever you want for where ever you want.

4. Cannot answer, but refer to point 3 above.

 

[simongr]

I don't think you would call Bane's mouthpiece in the movie a mask as such and in the comics his mask is actually spandex.

What I really want to know is how the OP earned 13000 points between post 8 and post 17 - a period of just 22 minutes.

 

[TonyHancock]

What I really want to know is how the OP earned 13000 points between post 8 and post 17 - a period of just 22 minutes.

My bet is on epiqure bonus points...happened to me in late January. One minute they weren't there, the next they were....it was positively magical.

 

[Archphoto]

No doubt you could (as also I did many a time) do this prior to April 2013, ( also to St Petersburg via Helsinki) but it seems that all traffic is being sent through Dubai from April onwards. A number of replies suggest that I could have utilized my 180,000 or so points through British Airways, but it was proven to me and my travel agent that this is not so. Thus flying from Bangkok to London after a stopover it seems that you must go by an Emirate flight to Dubai and hence to any other European City. As there is no direct flight from Dubai to Budapest, I have to take an extra 3 + hours to include Dubai. Seem a lot of hours and contrary to the public relations exercise no advantage to me. I might well be wrong, as is my experienced travel agent, but until Qantas states that you can have a stopover in BKK and go direct to London on a QF or BA flight, I think the traveling public is being short changed by Qantas.

Seems your TA perhaps didn't look too hard? The following schedule QF & BA all the way (one way) 86,000 points in Y, straight off the QF website (note a Saturday flight showed AY being the only flight available, but changing dates soon helped that):

[h=2]Your Itinerary : 1 Adult[/h] [TABLE="class: full"]
[TR]
[TH] Flight 1 [/TH]
[TH="colspan: 2"]From[/TH]
[TH="colspan: 2"]To[/TH]
[TH]Flight[/TH]
[TH]Departure
Terminal[/TH]
[TH]Travel Class[/TH]
[TH] Baggage [/TH]
[/TR]
[TR="class: tr_first"]
[TD="class: nowrap"] Tue 8 Oct 13 [/TD]
[TD] 06:00 [/TD]
[TD] Adelaide [/TD]
[TD] 08:25 [/TD]
[TD] Sydney [/TD]
[TD] Qantas flight

QF730 [/TD]
[TD="class: aligncenter"] 1 [/TD]
[TD] Economy [/TD]
[TD="class: baggage"] Checked:
1 piece [/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH] Flight 2 [/TH]
[TH="colspan: 2"][/TH]
[TH="colspan: 2"][/TH]
[TH][/TH]
[TH][/TH]
[TH][/TH]
[TH]
[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR="class: tr_first"]
[TD="class: nowrap"] Tue 8 Oct 13 [/TD]
[TD] 10:40 [/TD]
[TD] Sydney [/TD]
[TD] 16:35 [/TD]
[TD] Bangkok [/TD]
[TD] Qantas flight

QF23 [/TD]
[TD="class: aligncenter"] 1 [/TD]
[TD] Economy [/TD]
[TD="class: baggage"] Checked:
1 piece [/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH] Flight 3 [/TH]
[TH="colspan: 2"][/TH]
[TH="colspan: 2"][/TH]
[TH][/TH]
[TH][/TH]
[TH][/TH]
[TH]
[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR="class: tr_first"]
[TD="class: nowrap"] Mon 14 Oct 13 [/TD]
[TD] 00:20 [/TD]
[TD] Bangkok [/TD]
[TD] 06:25 [/TD]
[TD] London (Heathrow) [/TD]
[TD] British Airways flight

BA10 [/TD]
[TD="class: aligncenter"]
[/TD]
[TD] Economy [/TD]
[TD="class: baggage"] Checked:
1 piece [/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="colspan: 8"]

• 
  = Flight Operated by British Airways

[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH] Flight 4 [/TH]
[TH="colspan: 2"][/TH]
[TH="colspan: 2"][/TH]
[TH][/TH]
[TH][/TH]
[TH][/TH]
[TH]
[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR="class: tr_first"]
[TD="class: nowrap"] Mon 14 Oct 13 [/TD]
[TD] 20:30 [/TD]
[TD] London (Heathrow) [/TD]
[TD] 23:55 [/TD]
[TD] Budapest [/TD]
[TD] British Airways flight

BA870 [/TD]
[TD="class: aligncenter"] 3 [/TD]
[TD] Economy [/TD]
[TD="class: baggage"] Checked:
1 piece [/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="colspan: 8"]

• 
  = Flight Operated by British Airways

[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]


Key:

= Qantas flight

= Flight Operated by British Airways
Note: Qantas flights QF1 - QF399 depart from and arrive at the International Terminals. All other Qantas flights depart from and arrive at the Domestic Terminals.


Naturally, if flights aren't available on the day chosen, BA (or any other airline) won't show. (This is for a classic award, not an Anyseat Award.)

Took me a little over 5 minutes to check, select, change for an available BA flight - not that hard, and one reason I don't use TA very much these days. . . . .

 

[JohnPhelan]

Neither I nor my travel agent could book me on British Airways and use my almost 180,000 Qantas Frequent Flyer points

1. You are able to redeem your QFF ppoints on BA - if award seats are available on the flights you want. That has not changed.
2. Your travel agent can't do it - you need to do it yourself, either online (if you the flights you want are there) or via phone to QFF.

 

[JohnPhelan]

sure, but i had almost 180,000 qantas frequent flyer points earned over several years. Any suggestions how i can use them other than flying with qantas?

Yes, you can redeem them on BA to go to Budapest. You just need to choose days on which BA is making award seats available.

 

[nlagalle]

No doubt you could (as also I did many a time) do this prior to April 2013, ( also to St Petersburg via Helsinki) but it seems that all traffic is being sent through Dubai from April onwards. A number of replies suggest that I could have utilized my 180,000 or so points through British Airways, but it was proven to me and my travel agent that this is not so. Thus flying from Bangkok to London after a stopover it seems that you must go by an Emirate flight to Dubai and hence to any other European City. As there is no direct flight from Dubai to Budapest, I have to take an extra 3 + hours to include Dubai. Seem a lot of hours and contrary to the public relations exercise no advantage to me. I might well be wrong, as is my experienced travel agent, but until Qantas states that you can have a stopover in BKK and go direct to London on a QF or BA flight, I think the traveling public is being short changed by Qantas.

I could book MEL-BKK-Budapest-MEL without flying through DXB on the way over.. came in less than 160k too.

 

[casanovawa]

Hmmm, not sure how much you know about anything, but maybe a 140,000 point OW award is the way to go, probably less points to fly return, you can use any of the One World airlines (need to use 2 in addition to Qantas or probably just 3 all up) and you can go via LHR, HEL, KUL, BKK, HKG or any other route... Hell you could go the long way around via the USA... Total of 35,000 miles, max 5 stops and 16 segments... Just call up QFF and get them to work out an itinerary or do a bit of searching for available routes/times on the QF website...

But i wouldn't hold your breath waiting for AJ....

 

[sacolman]

I believe Mr Joyce is the CEO of Qantas whose tie up is not to my advantage in spite of the public relations exercise is tring its best to ensure that the public will accept it.

 

[nlagalle]

I believe Mr Joyce is the CEO of Qantas whose tie up is not to my advantage in spite of the public relations exercise is tring its best to ensure that the public will accept it.

Well maybe not to your advantage but i can tell you it does work well for me with some upcoming trips! And I highly doubt you will be a reply from him.

 

[sacolman]

Could you please attempt to book SYD-BKK on QF, then BKK-LHR-BUD on BA but use your SYD departure on 10th May 2013 and see if you can use your QFF points to pay for this. Thank you.