Qantas Delays/Cancellations

[yld200]

My wife is on QF2 departing Friday 22nd so will be keeping a close eye on things. She has a flight into LHR from CDG on a separate ticket the day of the flight - is QF likely to comp a hotel?

This sucks because she was delayed on the inbound flight from Melb 2 weeks ago...

 

[Melburnian1]

My wife is on QF2 departing Friday 22nd so will be keeping a close eye on things. She has a flight into LHR from CDG on a separate ticket the day of the flight - is QF likely to comp a hotel?

This sucks because she was delayed on the inbound flight from Melb 2 weeks ago...

Based on QF being a 'legacy' - full service - airline, I'd say yes. The provisions of EU261 should also apply (see my next post.)

The important thing is that that she's not a London resident, in which case if she turned up at check-in she'd most likely be given a rail pass (better) or a taxi voucher (not to be encouraged in congested streets.

Let her know to keep her cool, but be insistent that she's got nowhere to stay if my assertions are incorrect.

 

[Melburnian1]

Passengers on the 11 hour delayed QF2 today (i.e. the Thursday 21 June 2115 hours scheduled departure that is delayed until a projected 0810 hours tomorrow) and tomorrow should be aware that in some circumstances the provisions of EU261 (that can offer up to EUR600 in compensation) may be applicable.

Ask about this at check-in. AFF has had a few discussions on its intricacies in the past.

Also on Thursday 21, the B744 on QF15 departed BNE 73 late at 1123 with LAX suggested arrival, same day, at 0645 hours, 45 late.

 

[yld200]

Based on QF being a 'legacy' - full service - airline, I'd say yes. The provisions of EU261 should also apply (see my next post.)

The important thing is that that she's not a London resident, in which case if she turned up at check-in she'd most likely be given a rail pass (better) or a taxi voucher (not to be encouraged in congested streets.

Let her know to keep her cool, but be insistent that she's got nowhere to stay if my assertions are incorrect.

Thanks Melbournian, will report back on how she goes tomorrow.

 

[Melburnian1]

What was to be the 23 hour delayed QF1 (the departure of Wednesday 20 June) has been further delayed to 1545 out of SYD today (Thursday 21) so this will make it difficult for the aircraft to depart LHR on the delayed QF2 at 0810 hours on Friday 22 June as QF is predicting.

UPDATE: QF1D has just departed at 1607 hours. VH-OQC is the A388,

The SIN stop is estimated to commence at 2232 tonight but departure from there remains showing as '2310' which is unrealistic.

UPDATE: QF1D is further delayed with SIN arrival tonight (21 June) at 2240 and a departure at 0005 hours on Friday 22 with LHR arrival at 0615 hours.

 

[Melburnian1]

Due to the two consecutive days of 23 or 24 hour delays to QF1, QF2 on Friday 22 June (the 2115 hours) has been altered to depart at 0800 hours on Saturday 23.

 

[yld200]

Due to the two consecutive days of 23 or 24 hour delays to QF1, QF2 on Friday 22 June (the 2115 hours) has been altered to depart at 0800 hours on Saturday 23.

Wife got this message at around 8.40 pm MEL time;
‘Your flight QF2 on 22 JUN from London has changed back to the original schedule and will depart London at 9.15PM and will arrive into Singapore at 5.25PM’

 

[Melburnian1]

The 24-hour delayed QF1D (originally Wed ex SYD) departed SIN at 0051 on Friday 22 June with arrival in LHR still showing as 0615 hours.

The Thursday QF1 ex SYD has been cancelled, as has the Thursday 21 June 2115 hours QF2 ex LHR that had earlier been amended to depart at 0810 hours on Friday 22.

QF129, the 0930 hours Friday 22 SYD - PVG departed at 1002 with arrival suggested tonight local time at 1902 hours, 37 late.

 

[Melburnian1]

QF1D (the departure that left on Thursday 21 June from SYD, a day late) arrived LHR at 0727 on Friday 22, 25 hours and 17 minutes late. For some reason the QF computer had been showing '0615' that I had worked out was impossible.

As noted above the Thursday evening 2115 hours QF2 has been cancelled ex LHR, so next departure is the normal Friday night one, also at 2115 in 12 hours' time from now.

 

[Melburnian1]

In further on Friday 22 June 2018, QF19 (A332 VH-EBL, the 1210 hours SYD - MNL that took off about 20 late at 1248 is arriving at 1920 hours, 50 minutes late. This will delay QF20, the redeye, to about a 2035 hours departure.

Earlier, QF448, the 1645 hours MEL - SYD did not depart until 1727, arriving at 1857, 47 late. B738 VH-VYJ was then delayed on QF548, the 1900 hours SYD - BNE that took off at 1956, arriving at 2114 hours, 44 late.

With the delayed QF129 today, Friday's QF130 is predicted to commence pushing back in PVG at 2035, 45 late for a Saturday 23 June arrival at 0830, only five late in SYD.

 

[Melburnian1]

On Saturday 23 June 2018, QF79, the 0910 hours MEL up to NRT is expected to depart half an hour late.

QF94 from LAX to MEL (A388 VH-OQF) should arrive 130 minutes late at 0940 hours.

 

[Melburnian1]

QF1463 (for some reason incorrectly displaying on FR24 as QF2463, which does not appear to ever record the flight history of QF1463), the Saturday 23 June 0740 hours SYD - CBR (Q400 VH-VOS) was at 0930 hours still attempting to land in CBR that looks to be blanketed by fog.

The aircraft has done a very large number of circuits, but obviously cannot do this for ever.

Short hop QR906 had not done as many but was in a similar boat.

QF1518, the 0910 hours CBR - SYD is showing as delayed until 1000.

UPDATE: While QR906 landed at about 0935 and VA632 (ATR) at 0946, QF1463 attempted to land in CBR at 0951 but failed and is doing another go around.

QF2205 (Q400 VH-QOP), the 0820 hours SYD - ABX that took off at 0938 should arrive at 1045 hours, 70 minutes late.

QF1463 finally landed at 1016 after a marathon flight from SYD to CBR. Almost quicker to travel on the scenic morning SYD - CBR NSWTrainLink train as I did a few weeks ago! This aircraft must need refuelling. It was fortunate to not have to divert back to SYD.

 

[jb747]

VH-VOS is a Virgin 737.....

UPDATE: While QR906 landed at about 0935 and VA632 (ATR) at 0946, QF1463 attempted to land in CBR at 0951 but failed and is doing another go around.

SPECI YSCB 222330Z 05001KT 0500 FG BKN001 M00/M00 Q1026=

It would be interesting to see how the landings transpired, given that it's not an auto land runway, and the cloud base is below the minima. The vis probably is too.

 

[Melburnian1]

jb747, if I may ask, apart from climate variability - fog intensity I assume varies - was there any technical reason why the QF local SYD - CBR flight took so much more time to land (performed far more circuits, and had more go arounds) than the VA ATR?

The QF flight had departed SYD earlier.

Also on Saturday 23 June, QF952, the 1115 hours CBR up to BNE (B738 VH-VZT) was airborne at 1155 so arrival is expected 31 minutes tardy at 1326 hours.

QF33, the thrice weekly 1015 hours SYD - KIX departed 68 minutes late with arrival suggested at 2004, 54 late, so QF34 tonight ex KIX will be tardy. The aircraft had arrived in SYD this morning late on QF130, the redeye ex PVG.

 

[jb747]

jb747, if I may ask, apart from climate variability - fog intensity I assume varies - was there any technical reason why the QF local SYD - CBR flight took so much more time to land (performed far more circuits, and had more go arounds) than the VA ATR?

I probably implied the answer when I commented about the weather. The QF flight would have been legal. The others, maybe...

 

[Quickstatus]

While not a D&C. Some airports in OZ operate a Ground Delay Program : SYD,MEL,BNE,PER

http://www.airservicesaustralia.com...ay-Program-Immediate-Compliance-Revisions.pdf

Today the GDP is suspended at SYD.
... inviting industry or aviator insight into GDP in general

 

[Melburnian1]

While not a D&C. Some airports in OZ operate a Ground Delay Program : SYD,MEL,BNE,PER....Today the GDP is suspended at SYD.
... /QUOTE]

Quickstatus, it is 'suspended'; at Sydney today simply because Saturdays is (for domestic) probably the least busy day of the week (especially Saturday arvos and evenings?)

 

[Quickstatus]

I suspect so.
Would appreciate some insight into this subject

 

[Melburnian1]

:Later on Saturday 23 June 2018, QF1, the 1555 hours from SYD to SIN and LHR departed at 1629. Arrival in SIN should be half an hour late at 2245, but the flight still has every chance of being on time (or early) into LHR.

 

[Melburnian1]

On Sunday 24 June, QF20 arrived SYD at 0646, 36 minutes late.

The 0935 hours MEL - HKG, QF29 most unusually has been altered to depart tonight at 2330 and turn into a redeye with expected HKG arrival on Monday 25 at 0720 hours rather than 1720 this afternoon.

QF80 from NRT (A333 VH-QPC) and QF30 from HKG both arrived early in MEL on Sunday morning so something else must subsequently have gone wrong. QPC looks to be the aircraft that is defective.

Tonight's HKG - MEL QF30, the 2010 hours has been altered to depart on Monday 25 June at 0845 hours with MEL arrival at 2015 rather than 0735 hours tomorrow.

Also on Sunday 24, the 0910 hours MEL - NRT (QF79) departed 59 minutes behind schedule. Arrival of A333 VH-QPF is suggested as 1916 tonight, 41 late.

QF129 (0930 hours morning SYD - PVG) departed at 1018; arrival should be at 1920, 55 late.