Qantas con job

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Have you tried to do so? I can complete the booking on the QF site. It also comes out cheaper than the advertised QF special...

Yes, many times. Have you tried it?
If there is a Qantas flight involved it stays on the Qantas website. If there are only jetstar flights it kicks you out to the jetstar website.

Unless you are on the mobile site which doesn't re-direct.

The OP didn't say anything about using the mobile website.
 
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The OP didn't say anything about using the mobile website.

Not relevant to my question. You are able to use the QF site (albeit the mobile site) to purchase a solely JQ booking.

And to answer your previous question, yes I have tried it.
 
Get it correct before you start spurting cough. Qantas flies from Sydney to Honolulu, not every day though.

which might be true, but I fail to see how this changes the point the OP made. The OP never said Qantas doesn't fly to HNL.

These 2 separate airlines have an extremely one sided relationship. The one side seems to only involve disadvantaging the customer and benefiting Qantas group. Case in point, No Qantas flight appear when searching for flights on the jetstar website. There is definitely a need to exclude Jetstar flights from the Qantas website.

Not relevant to my question. You are able to use the QF site (albeit the mobile site) to purchase a solely JQ booking.

And to answer your previous question, yes I have tried it.

It is entirely relevant since it demonstrates the error in your previous post. sorry but your little last minute caveat about the mobile website does not change the fact that the actual web portal being used does kick you out to the jetstar website. If anything is irrelevant it is your point about the mobile website - that website is not the subject to this discussion.
 
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Case in point, No Qantas flight appear when searching for flights on the jetstar website. There is definitely a need to exclude Jetstar flights from the Qantas website.

Not entirely correct. There are situations where the JQ site does throw out QF flights connecting to a JQ service (on a JQ codeshare).

In the case of the OP, if the JQ flights were excluded, there would be no options to fly to HNL on they day they wanted on the QF site.
 
Not entirely correct. There are situations where the JQ site does throw out QF flights connecting to a JQ service (on a JQ codeshare).

In the case of the OP, if the JQ flights were excluded, there would be no options to fly to HNL on they day they wanted on the QF site.

So it shows an orange star and a JQ flight number.

As for the second statement - And this is a bad thing how? They don't want to fly jetstar
 
So it shows an orange star and a JQ flight number.

As for the second statement - And this is a bad thing how? They don't want to fly jetstar

So you want to add a last minute caveat now? Last time I checked QF were the operating carrier, discrediting your comment about the JQ site never offering QF flights. It does so in a limited capacity.
 
which might be true, but I fail to see how this changes the point the OP made. The OP never said Qantas doesn't fly to HNL.

These 2 separate airlines have an extremely one sided relationship. The one side seems to only involve disadvantaging the customer and benefiting Qantas group. Case in point, No Qantas flight appear when searching for flights on the jetstar website. There is definitely a need to exclude Jetstar flights from the Qantas website.

Surely the crux of the matter is as medhead says, the one-sided relationship between QANTAS and Jetstar. If QF adjusted their site (yes I know I shouldn't suggest this seeing what a mess they make each time), but if they had another tickbox besides the awards tick, where you opted to included J* then that would at least allow someone to initially focus on QF flights in their search, and (heaven forbid) add-in J* as a conscious decision if necessary for flying on a particular day.
 
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So you want to add a last minute caveat now? Last time I checked QF were the operating carrier, discrediting your comment about the JQ site never offering QF flights. It does so in a limited capacity.

It's not a caveat at all. If I do a search and all I see is orange stars and JQ flight numbers I look no further. It is a Jetstar flight. But do feel free to post a screenshot of a Qantas operated Jetstar flight. I'll start the timer.
 
Get it correct before you start spurting cough. Qantas flies from Sydney to Honolulu, not every day though.

Dear The Insider

I was not spurting cough and there is no need to be nasty.

My point is that Qantas advertised, but for the dates I wanted, I got Jetstar. I don't want to fly Jetstar. I understand that Qantas only flies on certain days. But it would be preferable if I could tick a box that disabled Jetstar flights. Same when I try to use points from Perth to JFK and always get Cathay Pacific flights as only option, yet when I do Perth to Melb, Melb to JFK, then I get Qantas flights.
 
Dear The Insider

I was not spurting cough and there is no need to be nasty.

My point is that Qantas advertised, but for the dates I wanted, I got Jetstar. I don't want to fly Jetstar. I understand that Qantas only flies on certain days. But it would be preferable if I could tick a box that disabled Jetstar flights. Same when I try to use points from Perth to JFK and always get Cathay Pacific flights as only option, yet when I do Perth to Melb, Melb to JFK, then I get Qantas flights.

The issue is that you allege a "Con Job" which it is not. QF does not fly on the date you want. Move on.
 
The issue is that you allege a "Con Job" which it is not. QF does not fly on the date you want. Move on.


If Qantas does not fly on the days I want, it should come up as "not available" or "blank".

We are fed this line that Qantas and Jetstar are not the same airline but that is ONLY when it suits. That is why I believe it is a con job. It is my opinion that it is a con job. My opinion, of which I believe I am entitled to.

I appreciate that you have a different point of view. No problem but do not presume to tell me to move on. That's rude.
 
The lack of research on this thread is amusing. The JQ options I can see come out at $150 cheaper than the QF sale options. It simply seems as if the OP wants to fly on a day that QF doesn't fly to HNL.

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Moderate the inappropriate stuff out. I can see one minor part the rest of the thread does not put the OP down.


He only got JQ because QF don't do HNL daily - it's simple isn't it.


Have you tried to do so? I can complete the booking on the QF site. It also comes out cheaper than the advertised QF special...
Last comments as there is no need for a slanging match. People here sometimes need to agree to disagree. But points in turn:

  1. Some people do not want to fly JQ. At $150 difference I would seriously consider flying on a Qantas day or not at all. The OP also stated he did not want the JQ options. (In fact it would probably push me to another carrier.
  2. No need to moderate stuff out. The mods here are members primarily and mods when needed. The comments fall within the rules IMHO but still could be said politely and without put downs. What I said was my opinion.
  3. Correct QF do not do HNL daily. Nothing else was relevant as the OP did not want JQ.
  4. Yes I tried and was taken to the JQ site for the JQ flights in question.
 
If Qantas does not fly on the days I want, it should come up as "not available" or "blank".

We are fed this line that Qantas and Jetstar are not the same airline but that is ONLY when it suits. That is why I believe it is a con job. It is my opinion that it is a con job. My opinion, of which I believe I am entitled to.

I appreciate that you have a different point of view. No problem but do not presume to tell me to move on. That's rude.

That's precisely the point. And I'll add the example of JQ canceling a flight but then refusing to move me to the next most appropriate flight that happens to be operated by QF. One airline or two?
 
That's precisely the point. And I'll add the example of JQ canceling a flight but then refusing to move me to the next most appropriate flight that happens to be operated by QF. One airline or two?

Indeed. That happened to me in NRT. I said fine, put me on QF22 (I was flying JQ J so I was more than happy to go on QF J :)), but they wouldn't/couldn't do it.

We had to fly to KIX instead and then get the JQ flight there back to OOL, which meant we had not time to relax after having flown in from CTS and also missed out using the QF lounge in NRT.

One airline or two?
 
If Qantas does not fly on the days I want, it should come up as "not available" or "blank".

So what you are saying is QF should tailor the website to individuals so they recognise what your preferences are and recognise that you do not fly JQ.

I suppose Amazon do that in a way but wait the website is Amazon's business whilst QF is in the airline business.

Nanny State here we come. Yahoo!
 
So what you are saying is QF should tailor the website to individuals so they recognise what your preferences are and recognise that you do not fly JQ.

I suppose Amazon do that in a way but wait the website is Amazon's business whilst QF is in the airline business.

Nanny State here we come. Yahoo!

That is probably a little extreme, but adding a tick box that allows one to exclude Jetstar would not be hard and would be very useful.
 
So what you are saying is QF should tailor the website to individuals so they recognise what your preferences are and recognise that you do not fly JQ.

I suppose Amazon do that in a way but wait the website is Amazon's business whilst QF is in the airline business.

Nanny State here we come. Yahoo!
Nothing to do with being a nanny state.

If you want JQ go to JQ web site,
If you want VA go to VA web site,
If you want QF go to QF web site etc...
If you want to look at all the options then look at Expedia or one of the other numerous options.

Pretty simple really.
 
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So what you are saying is QF should tailor the website to individuals so they recognise what your preferences are and recognise that you do not fly JQ.

I suppose Amazon do that in a way but wait the website is Amazon's business whilst QF is in the airline business.

Nanny State here we come. Yahoo!

No actually what has been proposed is giving people the choice to see JQ flights or not, via a check box type of option. Choice or nanny state?
 
Why does both QF and JQ fly to Hawaii ? Anyone know the reason QF group doubles up on this route ?
 
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Why does both QF and JQ fly to Hawaii ? Anyone know the reason QF group doubles up on this route ?

Different markets being served. QF going after corporate (in this case defence) while JQ go after the leisure market.
 
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