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ArgyVonBargy

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Ok so I had this down pat at the start of the year (and before that too), at X days before flying, the seats throughout the plane are opened up so that anyone can sit anywhere. Before that your FF award dictates where you are allowed to check.

Now I *think* it was 6 days before the flight - but I can't remember 100%,,, can anyone help me remember?


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One of my pet hates of QF is that at T-80 anyone can select the nice spare seat I had beside me
 
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One of my pet hates of QF is that at T-80 anyone can select the nice spare seat I had beside me

Really? I will often see a seat next to me "blocked" on Expert Flyer. I presume another WP could select the blocked seat, but that other passengers would not see it as available unless the flight is "relatively" full...
 
One of my pet hates of QF is that at T-80 anyone can select the nice spare seat I had beside me

I don't think thats the case as those 'shadow' seats remain blocked if the full is not full. As a SG, I love selecting 4A or 4F at T-80 and hope a WP comes along and select 4C or 4D so I can benefit from his/her shadow.
 
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Now I *think* it was 6 days before the flight - but I can't remember 100%,,, can anyone help me remember?
For a SIN-BNE QF52 journey in April 2014, our TA slotted Mrs GF and I into exit row, some 6 months out!

Sadly I had to decline as Mrs GF is legally blind and so have requested relocation to row 38 (seats of our preference), but we may suffer Status Squash by premium members in this area, so a points upgrade to PE has been lodged.
 
Seat selection free for all isnt always available at T-80 hours. Sometimes it is T-79 hours. Sometimes it is T-78 hours. Sometimes longer. If you want a particular seat bad enough you have to keep trying.

That is most definitely incorrect, there is a seating selection priority facility by Altea.

At some point in time it is a free for all. Possibly when OLCI opens. If flight is not full and you have a spare seat next to you that has nothing to do with seat blocking. It is because no one wanted to sit there.
 
... If flight is not full and you have a spare seat next to you that has nothing to do with seat blocking. It is because no one wanted to sit there.
You are completely incorrect ...

... The "shadow" does exist ...
 
You are completely incorrect ...

... The "shadow" does exist ...

Not incorrect.

If anyone can allocate any vacant seat at OLCI, checkin kiosk, airport check-in, bag drop, Qantas lounge and gate lounge then your "shadow" theory holds no weight what so ever. It is pot luck who has the vacant seat when the flight gets under way. The Chairmans lounge in 4C has someone sitting in 4B, the Platinum One in 4D has someone sitting in 4E and the lowly Platinum in 5D has a vacant seat. That is what I call pot luck.

If you "shadow" truly existed then there would never ever be a full flight. Would there?
 
Not incorrect.

If anyone can allocate any vacant seat at OLCI, checkin kiosk, airport check-in, bag drop, Qantas lounge and gate lounge then your "shadow" theory holds no weight what so ever. It is pot luck who has the vacant seat when the flight gets under way. The Chairmans lounge in 4C has someone sitting in 4B, the Platinum One in 4D has someone sitting in 4E and the lowly Platinum in 5D has a vacant seat. That is what I call pot luck.

If you "shadow" truly existed then there would never ever be a full flight. Would there?
There you go again - the world according to one's personal perception. There is a bigger world out there than most, including myself, can really perceive.

The 'shadow' is no theory - it is practice - I have observed them on dozens of flights; moving along with a statused passenger changing seats. This on the same flight as others travelling with me but on separate bookings. Observation tools include Qantas.com/myb, Expert Flyer and KVS.

Yes, a shadow may be overridden, but it takes manual intervention to override Altea and can not be done at OLCI/Checkin/Kiosk. Yes, an agent may do something with a few keystroke or a phone call that obliterates a shadow but that does not mean it did not exist.

Most of the time I indeed have a free seat beside me - but I do travel on off peak time generally.

Of course a WP or SG who mainly books the cheapest fares when travelling on Friday evening or Sunday nights would be hard pressed to find a 'shadow', let alone a free adjacent seat given they are likely well down the PCV pecking order.

As for never being a full flight - you obviously can't seem understand the concept of a shadow - consider it a 'soft' block - the shadowed seat can be occupied, but only as the remaining seats diminish as a flight fills - there will be no shadows remaining on a full flight.
 
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Yes, a shadow may be overridden, but it takes manual intervention to override Altea and can not be done at OLCI/Checkin/Kiosk. Yes, an agent may do something with a few keystroke or a phone call that obliterates a shadow but that does not mean it did not exist.
That is my whole point. I understand seat blocking. But it can be overriden so it is meaningless from that point on. It does not matter if the seat block moved with you throughout the cabin. A couple of keystrokes has rendered it useless. And it is a totally random process.

Mr Once in Year Flyer: (Looks at boarding pass and notices 29B) "Are there any seats further forward?"
Check-in Agent: "Window or Aisle?"
Mr Once in Year Flyer: "Aisle please!"
Check-in Agent: "How about 17D?"
Mr Once in Year Flyer: "Anything further forward?"
Check-in Agent: "Row 4 middle seat available! 4E!"
Mr Once in Year Flyer: "I will take it. Thank you."

No check done on who is in 4D or 4F. If you flew as many peak flights as I did then you may also start to understand some pattern such as me sitting in 4D with someone without status sitting in 4E but looking back through the cabin every middle seat back to row 7-8 is spare.

So forgive me for not paying too much attention when people start to get too worried about or expecting to have a shadow on every flight they are on because of some meaningless status they think entitles them to a spare seat next to them at all times.
 
I have seen what JohnK is talking about on many flights: Seats 4B and 4E are full and seats 5-8B&E are empty.
 
Personally I sit too far back in Y to see when shadows might be present. Can't we just agree that shadows decrease as a flight fills!
 
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So forgive me for not paying too much attention when people start to get too worried about or expecting to have a shadow on every flight they are on because of some meaningless status they think entitles them to a spare seat next to them at all times.
I am not worried about a block being overridden - it's the myth you are promoting that is of concern:
... If anyone can allocate any vacant seat at OLCI, checkin kiosk ...
You and I both know this is not true - it takes manual intervention (by someone with access to Qantas's systems) to override a "shadow"/Seat-block. Even going by your post I quote at the top you imply this part of your statement is incorrect (by referring to a conversation).

Your original contribution to this thread was to refute my post the the following post is incorrect:
One of my pet hates of QF is that at T-80 anyone can select the nice spare seat I had beside me

Which, of course is indeed not true.

... . Can't we just agree that shadows decrease as a flight fills!
My shadow increase as I fill ... :-|

:p
 
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