Qantas A380 F on sale on SYD-LAX from 27/3/22

[MooTime]

I think I'd rather be happy with J than F as it gives what I enjoy, a bed, food n booze.
Extra points for what benefits really.
First lounge ok, yes.
I obviously only flown J limited times internationally.

What's others perception between J vs F, specifically on Qantas as that's this thread?

 

[Guvner]

Does seat width take in to account distance between seats? I know seat pitch does.
A narrower seat may have more space between it and the next seat possibly giving a net increase in "room" compared to a wider seat with less separation.
Just a thought.

 

[MooTime]

Does seat width take in to account distance between seats? I know seat pitch does.
A narrower seat may have more space between it and the next seat possibly giving a net increase in "room" compared to a wider seat with less separation.
Just a thought.

I was thinking the same....does the width of the arm rest count anywhere as it would decrease arms/shoulders contact, very important, ha!

while we're getting into the nitty & gritty.

 

[NSun]

I'll admit there's less of a difference between J and F now that the Skybeds are a thing of the past.

But the main things that'd stand out to me are that cabin is smaller than the J cabin and there's more food/drink options than in business - I am a fan of tawny port as well as the steak sandwich and both are only available in first class.

I would also note that the only time I've got a spa appointment at the Sydney First lounge when not in first is when I had a 6 hour delay - one where we had to go back to the gate.

 

[Matt_01]

On QF the F seat size/space is up there with the best being on the lower deck of an a380 in a 1-1-1 config, service is seperate conversation.

 

[RichardMEL]

For me the big thing with QF F is the seat/bed. Specially in bed mode. On a 12+ hour long hail, for me, the difference is real (I find the J suite to be a tad narrow for me). The food is more or less on par with J with just one or two other bits and pieces and the French bubbles but the big one for me is the relative privacy and the space and comfort of the bed product.

Even tho9ugh it's 15ish years old design wise, it's still very good at what it is very good at. Other aspects not the best compared to some others.

As Matt says.. Service is another conversation. Had some magnificent F crews.. some who have remembered me from other flights (which is a nice touch). and I mean REALLY remembered, not just "welcome back Mr P1" and had a personal touch. Others have been a bit... hmmm well.. "unique" and even the odd one who made me feel like a simple request was a real chore.. but we all have days like that and I don't judge the whole product or staff based on one or two.

If I had the choice between say SQ and QF then it's a no brainer but for what it is, and keeping expectations in check, it's far from the worse "F" product out there (even with the various jokes about mini First and all that).

And, the value proposition will vary depending on how one gets into the cabin too. eg no way would I pay for QF F with $$$. points sure. Upgrade.. sure... potentially a decent (ha!) sale potentially. eg some years back there was one of those "buy J, have F one way" type deals to LHR. It wound up being about $1k or so difference cmpared to a cheaper J sale at the time for that one way F sector. For me that was a no brainer value wise. Plus I was upgraded on the J sectors anyway but ti was nice to have the confirmed F already booked in and for me that was value. For others maybe not. Again, these things are very much subjective.

Each o their own of course.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

Does seat width take in to account distance between seats? I know seat pitch does.
A narrower seat may have more space between it and the next seat possibly giving a net increase in "room" compared to a wider seat with less separation.
Just a thought.

Seat pitch is purely the distance between a point on one seat, and the exact same point on the seat in front (or behind). Seat pitch is a little redundant with flat beds in business class because you are often sleeping in a staggered or herringbone arrangement with your feet in a cubby. Many airlines are now adding a third measurement: bed length. (So you'll have seat pitch, seat width, and bed length.)

 

[MEL_Traveller]

I think I'd rather be happy with J than F as it gives what I enjoy, a bed, food n booze.
Extra points for what benefits really.
First lounge ok, yes.
I obviously only flown J limited times internationally.

What's others perception between J vs F, specifically on Qantas as that's this thread?

Qantas and BA 'First class' are probably two of the world's best business classes QF's F lounge doesn't compare with the likes of Swiss, Lufthansa or Air France, but is more on par with AA's flagship lounges and Air Canada's Signature Lounge.

QF's business class is middle of the road: on par with CX, JL and BA, above Lufthansa and United. But below the likes of EVA Air, Qatar etc. QF's business lounge offerings in Australia are poor, but on par with those of Lufthansa in its home ports