Predictions of when international flights may resume/bans lifted

jb747

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Its called $$$ - unfortunately WA has heaps of mining $$$

I'm guess wait until the majority of states get to 80% - there might be enough carrots/sticks without needing to add to it.
Yep, and I guess that means they'll be at the front lines of the Chinese weaning themselves off our ore.
 

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Playing devils advocate here but WA hasn't received any federal disaster payments from the feds for any of its lockdowns or funding since job keep / seeker ended but the mining dollars keep rolling in both the fed and state government.

Of course that can change a moments notice.
 

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Yes words words words. I want to hear how he’s going to convince / penalise / force rogue states to comply.
That will come clear with time. Patience will be required but the federal government have plenty of levers to pull.

QLD will need tourism.

WA will need more money with iron ore prices heading down, and people there will start asking why shut-the-borders Mark spent 18 months with a crippling hospital system and didn't do anything about it. His argument will continue to be valid for a month or two, but when NSW and VIC are basically open and free, and at the first sign of one case, WA institutes a hard lockdown - that's when the big questions will be asked.

Also don't underestimate the power of the university sector in WA. International students will give WA a very wide berth until (relatively) free travel is allowed.
 

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Gladys was again saying about forgetting case numbers and living with the virus like the flu. She also went on about how we are at the moment only one of a very few countries isolated to the rest of the world and we have to learn to accept the high member of cases.

The COVID outbreak has brought forward international travel a long way since no more 'letting COVID in' and 'how we are living like no other countries and not going to jeopardize Australia's lifestyle with letting international arrivals in'.

It looks like the federal election will not be the deciding factor now in opening up borders.

Amazing how one LIMO driver has brought forward international travel by months! Thanks again NSW for not locking down hard and eliminating it again!
 

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the federal government have plenty of levers to pull...International students will give WA a very wide berth until (relatively) free travel is allowed.
International students is one of the key levers. States that break from the plan and don't allow international travel to resume to a much greater extent than presently can hardly expect the Feds to approve huge numbers of international students to come to those states.
 

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Gladys was again saying about forgetting case numbers and living with the virus like the flu. She also went on about how we are at the moment only one of a very few countries isolated to the rest of the world and we have to learn to accept the high member of cases.

The COVID outbreak has brought forward international travel a long way since no more 'letting COVID in' and 'how we are living like no other countries and not going to jeopardize Australia's lifestyle with letting international arrivals in'.

It looks like the federal election will not be the deciding factor now in opening up borders.

Amazing how one LIMO driver has brought forward international travel by months! Thanks again NSW for not locking down hard and eliminating it again!
You're right, not that long ago we were the envy of the world, and virtually every country on earth would want to be in our position.

I really thought no nada zero zilch action on opening international borders until post May 2022 special date.

Happy to see I was wrong.
 

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yes I must say in line with the last few posters above, I too feel like we might just have turned a little bit of a corner with many state and federal pollies coming out recently firmly in support of opening up at 70% and more at 80%. Also the growing emphasis on living with the virus. Such a different mood than poor Jane Hrdlicka encountered with her accurate but ill-timed comments earlier this year.
I agree that feeling of past 7 days, some, certainly at national level the pollies are saying, 'Living with covid', true jakeseven, only words, but we need something, anything to give us hope that common sense approach may eventuate from those paid by our taxes.

Case numbers in VIC & NSW irrelevant IMO, update us with Hospital cases & how well the Vac rate is going. End of presser.
Covid zero absolutely behind us now, we're locked down till at least 70%. It stinks. I bloody hope they are getting hospitals ready for the surge, it's bloody obvious isn't is??

So glad to hear PM & few others say this, now how will Feds sway/enforce some states....... GST I don't know, could get ugly, then how much more ugly can it get.

True, Jane Hrdlicka comments will return to be quite truthful, and what many are saying now.

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The days of international student cash cows are in the past. The Chinese government will ensure that.
 

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Have you really booked a trip for 2023? I always found that I couldn't book a flight more than something like 11 months out.
Haven't booked the flight yet for the reason you identify. However, I have outlaid $13,000 to Luxury Escapes for the accommodation. I thought we deserved something a bit special for our planned family reunion. And yes I know how bad LE has been, but this one comes with a no questions asked full refund up to 21 days before check in. I figure I will know by Christmas 2022 if the border is really open.
 

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That will come clear with time. Patience will be required but the federal government have plenty of levers to pull.

QLD will need tourism.

WA will need more money with iron ore prices heading down, and people there will start asking why shut-the-borders Mark spent 18 months with a crippling hospital system and didn't do anything about it. His argument will continue to be valid for a month or two, but when NSW and VIC are basically open and free, and at the first sign of one case, WA institutes a hard lockdown - that's when the big questions will be asked.

Also don't underestimate the power of the university sector in WA. International students will give WA a very wide berth until (relatively) free travel is allowed.
I can only strongly agree about WA as the iron ore price collapses (and the AUD tanks!). WA has had hard economic crashes following mining booms before. The gold rush; late 19th cent boom; 1960s/early 70s boom (Poseidon anyone?); the early 80s boom; and now the China boom (parts 1 & 2).

Living in Qld the last 30 months (but not a Qld'er) I've always thought the need for tourism plus the soaring state debt will drive the border open.
 

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Amazing how one LIMO driver has brought forward international travel by months! Thanks again NSW for not locking down hard and eliminating it again!
Elimination was never going to happen, regardless of the severity of the response.
 

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I can only strongly agree about WA as the iron ore price collapses (and the AUD tanks!). WA has had hard economic crashes following mining booms before. The gold rush; late 19th cent boom; 1960s/early 70s boom (Poseidon anyone?); the early 80s boom; and now the China boom (parts 1 & 2).

Living in Qld the last 30 months (but not a Qld'er) I've always thought the need for tourism plus the soaring state debt will drive the border open.

Very true, i'm sure the cogs are starting to turn in Marks head.

Bugger about the AU$ - should have bought foreign currency while it was up! Its not something I've had to think about for so long!
 

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Oh dear, I am feeling nervous. Based on every other time I have felt a glimmer of hope, something bad happens to make me despair again. I hope that does not happen this time and we have open borders by Christmas 2021.
Honestly, if the State border issues are any lesson, once international borders come down initially, just go - don't worry if quarantine/caps come back. (Assuming a person is fully vaccinated).
 

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Haven't booked the flight yet for the reason you identify. However, I have outlaid $13,000 to Luxury Escapes for the accommodation. I thought we deserved something a bit special for our planned family reunion. And yes I know how bad LE has been, but this one comes with a no questions asked full refund up to 21 days before check in. I figure I will know by Christmas 2022 if the border is really open.
We've had a good experience with Luxury Escapes and that was booked before Covid. So no money back guarantees back then. They put everything into credit and allowed us to chip away booking other Aussie escapes. Their international deals are fantastic.
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Honestly, if the State border issues are any lesson, once international borders come down initially, just go - don't worry if quarantine/caps come back. (Assuming a person is fully vaccinated).
That's what I'm doing next May. I'm outta here and will face any consequences later.
 

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