Popped the Business Class Cherry on CX134 From Melbourne

[topcat45]

So I guess you are inferring that I am immature in some way??? I would be interested to know your thoughts on this.

 

[opusman]

So I guess you are inferring that I am immature in some way??? I would be interested to know your thoughts on this.

Trolls normally are.

 

[topcat45]

Troll??? Who is being immature now???

 

[MEL_Traveller]

My daughter-in-law's sister is a hostie & she disagrees with you & so do I.

I think your daughter might be pulling your leg a little

There is no direct correlation between the seat row printed or attached to an overhead locker, and the allocation of that locker space to passengers or seats. Lockers within a class on an aircraft are shared space between all passengers in that class of travel.

 

[topcat45]

I said she is my daughter-in-law's sister, not my daughter & she said it is implied that the locker above you is for your items not someone sitting elsewhere & taking up more than 1 locker. It's just courtesy, but as others have said, the attitude of some passengers these days leaves a lot to be desired. I have unfortunately witnessed some passengers who seem to have completely forgotten to pack common sense & courtesy in their luggage.

 

[esseeeayeenn]

When I was a lad we were lucky if we got space for ourselves in the overhead lockers. You young people with your seats. Luxury. Sheer luxury.

 

[legroom]

I said she is my daughter-in-law's sister, not my daughter & she said it is implied that the locker above you is for your items not someone sitting elsewhere & taking up more than 1 locker. It's just courtesy, but as others have said, the attitude of some passengers these days leaves a lot to be desired. I have unfortunately witnessed some passengers who seem to have completely forgotten to pack common sense & courtesy in their luggage.

While I understand where you are coming from, we - as passengers - are not there to enforce the rules (or what we think should be the rules); Once the FAs had waved them through with their overloaded carry-ons [& the kitchen sink], then it is clearly implied that their carry-ons are to be stored in the O/H locker(s) wherever that may be in their (or others') cabin. Otherwise, it would have been gate-checked already.

Like it or not, the O/H lockers are not specified anywhere on the BP or in the T & C to be for the exclusive use of the seats underneath.

Sure, I am as annoyed as everyone else to see that but to groan that "it is mine" is somewhat stretching the envelope a little.

 

[defurax]

I said she is my daughter-in-law's sister, not my daughter & she said it is implied that the locker above you is for your items not someone sitting elsewhere & taking up more than 1 locker. It's just courtesy, but as others have said, the attitude of some passengers these days leaves a lot to be desired. I have unfortunately witnessed some passengers who seem to have completely forgotten to pack common sense & courtesy in their luggage.

So when flying QF in J in row 1 on a 737 you can't bring any carry on bag? Because the row 1 overhead compartments are locked. That make sense. Actually I remember an angry J pax in row 2 teling the FA that there were some bags in HIS compartment. Must have been you...

 

[topcat45]

Nah, wasn't me mate. The whole point I am trying to make is common sense & courtesy. Had an ethnic gentleman once who I think had more kids than I have fingers & they all had those oversize striped zipper bags. He damn near took up half the lockers on his side of the aircraft. I can tell you there were a lot of very peeved passengers. The ones above my seats got promptly put on the floor & the hostie, oopps FA, eventually convinced him to stuff them under his tribes seats. Once I did that others started to follow. The trouble in today's world is the silent majority too often puts up with the inconsiderate actions of the minority idiots. It's a nice sunny afternoon here in Sydney, think I will go mow the lawn then have a nice cold one. Bye for now.

 

[esseeeayeenn]

The problem is that concepts such as "common sense" and "common courtesy" are not universal constants. They are in fact imposters.
They masquerade as basic, fundamental objective standards when they are in fact entirely subjective and culturally determined.
So their content varies wildly between different cultures, and across other dividing lines.
For example in our culture someone who puts a bag in "your" locker above "your" seat before you board might be seen as discourteous.
In another culture they might simply be seen as fortunate, and you might be regarded as failing to look after you own interests by not boarding earlier.

I entirely agree that "we should all try to get along" but different cultures, societies, religions, castes, classes etc have all developed different rules to acheive this objective.
In our every day lives we might deal exclusively with people who share our own rule system. International travel takes us out of that comfort zone.

 

[mannej]

My daughter-in-law's sister is a hostie & she disagrees with you & so do I. The point I am trying to make is that if everybody adhered to the limits then there would be no problem with some cretins using up 2 & 3 lockers. I remember one flight I was boarding & the gate staff were enforcing the cabin baggage rules. I thought that was great.

Whilst others may chastise you over the use of the term hostie, I will look past that.

Yes I agree that people should stick to the limits, but the argument of your daughter in-laws sister is a flight attendant doesn't add any credibility to your argument. It has been noted on here that there are aircraft (I am thinking narrowbody in particular) that don't have enough overhead locker space should everyone bring their maximum carry-on allowance. How often do you hear the statement that overhead space is at a premium?

I said she is my daughter-in-law's sister, not my daughter & she said it is implied that the locker above you is for your items not someone sitting elsewhere & taking up more than 1 locker. It's just courtesy, but as others have said, the attitude of some passengers these days leaves a lot to be desired. I have unfortunately witnessed some passengers who seem to have completely forgotten to pack common sense & courtesy in their luggage.

Having just read this, you have only answered part of my comment. As noted by other members there are rows that have limited overhead locker space, which validates my comments that it is both a shared resource, and that not all aircraft have sufficient overhead locker storage room.

I guess we will agree to disagree.

 

[topcat45]

Looks like I'm just a cranky old bugger. Right or wrong I have always regarded the lockers above me to be my space. If you are eating in a restaurant with your family you don't own the table, you are merely occupying the space. How would you feel if someone just plonked his plate down at a spare seat at your table & started eating. A bit peeved I would imagine. Yep, looks like we will just have to agree to disagree. I concede that it's not written in stone to be my locker but never the less it is my space. As for bowing to someone because of their different cultural background, what a load of you know what. We have been doing that for far too long in this country. Having said that, when I am in another country I always adhere to the old "when in Rome" rule. Anyway, this has probably been flogged to death so have a nice day all.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

Looks like I'm just a cranky old bugger. Right or wrong I have always regarded the lockers above me to be my space. If you are eating in a restaurant with your family you don't own the table, you are merely occupying the space. How would you feel if someone just plonked his plate down at a spare seat at your table & started eating. A bit peeved I would imagine. Yep, looks like we will just have to agree to disagree. I concede that it's not written in stone to be my locker but never the less it is my space. As for bowing to someone because of their different cultural background, what a load of you know what. We have been doing that for far too long in this country. Having said that, when I am in another country I always adhere to the old "when in Rome" rule. Anyway, this has probably been flogged to death so have a nice day all.

No one says you have to bow to someone else because of cultural differences, but a little understanding goes a long way.

On overhead space: smart travelers know that the most secure place to put your bag is probably not above your seat, but directly across the aisle.

In high density seating, with many people sharing a locker, putting your bag across the aisle allows you to visual the bag at all times and ensure no one is tampering with it. If the bag is above your head it's very difficult, if not impossible, to tell whether a person is going into your bag or their own.

In situations where you have sole use of your locker putting it above your own seat makes sense.

 

[esseeeayeenn]

As for bowing to someone because of their different cultural background, what a load of you know what. We have been doing that for far too long in this country. Having said that, when I am in another country I always adhere to the old "when in Rome" rule.

Respect is a completely different matter to "bowing" to anyone.
I haven't noticed Australlians bowing to anyone other than, historically, the British and then, when they became weak, the Americans.
Despite any contrary delusions held by the crazy people who've descended on Bendigo.

The point is customs vary so no one culture is in a position to insist that its customs should prevail always and everywhere.
Exactly which country do you think are you in on an international flight? Departure, destination, carrier?
If we all followed the "when in Rome" rule then none of us would be able to drink on an Emirates, Etihad or Qatar operated flight!
Such compromises are often to our benefit, rather than our disadvantage.

 

[topcat45]

If you read my post I specifically said "when I am in another country", not on board an aircraft. You haven't noticed Australia bowing to anyone??????????? Where the hell have you been. If you haven't noticed what has been going on lately then there is no point conversing any more. Next thing you will be telling me that Rudd & Gillard were great PM's

 

[get me outta here]

This is sounding like one of those threads that would benefit from being closed down please.

 

[topcat45]

My humble apologies. It wasn't intended to be like this. I promise to be a good boy in future

 

[topcat45]

If anyone would like to know how to get business class seats on AirAsia for a good price I would be happy to share my experiences

 

[SeatBackForward]

If anyone would like to know how to get business class seats on AirAsia for a good price I would be happy to share my experiences

Is it a method that uses brute force to get what you want?

 

[topcat45]

I promised to be nice, what happened here???