PER - LHR - is YASA the best option

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Hi there - first time poster here!

I am looking to book a YASA from PER to LHR for mid 2011.

I have 275,000 FF points and looking for the most cost effective method of getting to LHR for myself and mrs c.

Also looking at these flights there are heaps of options for flights - any suggestions on preferred flight no's. will the A380 problems be sorted by then!?

Cheers
 
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Hi there - first time poster here!

I am looking to book a YASA from PER to LHR for mid 2011.

I have 275,000 FF points and looking for the most cost effective method of getting to LHR for myself and mrs c.

Also looking at these flights there are heaps of options for flights - any suggestions on preferred flight no's. will the A380 problems be sorted by then!?

Cheers

You'd be crazy to get a yasa. You'd be much better getting a jasa or a j or y classic award.
 
hi and welcome to AFF!

You could look at 140000 RTW Oneworld Awards as you nearly have enough points for 2.

Using YASA could be cost effective if you find Classic awards and then use ASA as you get SC's and points.

Good luck and happy travels.

ejb
 
hi and welcome to AFF!

You could look at 140000 RTW Oneworld Awards as you nearly have enough points for 2.

Using YASA could be cost effective if you find Classic awards and then use ASA as you get SC's and points.

Good luck and happy travels.

ejb

Thanks ejb - sorry for my ignorance but how do search for RTW Oneworld awards. Also what you mean by "find classsic award then use ASA"?
 
J classic awards are often cheaper than yasas
A classic award is an idea, but it depends on what if any goals the OP has.

Working assumptions

As there's little background to go on other than OP is QPNB, I'll assume that he'd at least like to go QPPS for a while and will do this as a points plus pay to reduce the costs.

Summary

Here's my thoughts in summary on the proposed travel option.

  • Should I go ASA or a Classic award? This depends entirely on your goals. If you are looking to attain QPPS, then a ASA booking for the proposed trip could get you there. If status is not your goal, then it's far better to go for a classic award.
  • Could I attain higher QFF status by booking this as an ASA? Depending on travel plans during the qualifying year, this is possible.
  • Is a PER-xSIN-LHR return ASA possible? Yes
  • How much could it cost me points/cash wise? See my workings below.
  • Will using an ASA provide a financial advantage to me? Compared to a regular ticket price, you will be saving between 50-75% assuming the scenario outlined below.
  • Can I fly the A380? If offered, yes. This could cost you an extra 10000pts.
  • Is there value going for A380 flights compared to other aircraft types? IMHO If they are the newly configured 747's - then the only difference you'll notice in Y is the lack of a snack bar. Seats are the same.
Working calculations

This is based on information provided today (24 Nov 2010) by the QF website. The points cost of ASA tickets can change at a moments notice depending on multiple factors, so this scenario and calculations is valid only as long as the stated points values line up with today's prices.

I'd like to do this up as an organised table, but it's not really possible here. Check out my spreadsheet (link in my signature below) if you'd like to do this.

PER-xSIN-LHR return is a Zone 9 * 2, which will return the following SCs;

  • Y- - 100sc
  • Y - 200sc
  • Y+ - product not available on PER-SIN, so scenario ignored.
  • J - 400sc
This would deliver the following return points wise**:

  • Y- - 18048
  • Y - 18048
  • J - 22560 (inc. cabin bonus)
**These amounts could increase by 25% depending on current SC balance for qualifying year as one of these flights could push into QPPS level.

In terms of raw points cost, this is the best straight points cost for what I was getting for return fares per pax booked in June 2011:

  • Y- - 204669 (need to check what metal)
  • Y - 464179 (check metal per previous)
  • J - 819709 (confirmed SIN-LHR-SIN scheduled as A380 metal)
A minimum of 112000 pts must be used for this itinerary, so assuming he used half his balance on this itinerary (137500pts), a cash outlay of the following would be required per ticket:

  • Y- - AUD740.02
  • Y - AUD3264.25
With J, the minimum points outlay goes up to 224000pts per ticket, meaning on the points balance the OP could only book one ticket as an ASA and would have to pay cash in full for the other.

Therefore assuming that minimum points only were used for a single ticket, cash outlay would be as follows:

  • J - AUD5930.72
I hope this helps you think it through and work out which option for booking these tickets is best for your individual circumstances. Best of luck.
 
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There is plenty of J Classic award availability in June 2011 for:

HKG-LHR and LHR-HKG on British Airways.

Also, I just noticed that Finnair searches are now showing online...
 
Thanks a lot for the posts.

I have been seraching the classic awards and comparing them to the ASA and for a Y rtn the ASA is only slightly more and the ability to earn points and SC is there.

Im not really chasing SC so the goal is a cost minimising travel utilising points where possible.

Departure date is set at 30 June 11, return date is flexible anywhere around 10-15 August 11.

In searching classic Y+ i notice a lot of the BA flights dont offer this even though it can be selected as an option when booking setas. ie its gives the option of choosing a Y+ seat but when the review page comes up it says the flight will be economy seat only?
 
You'd be crazy to get a yasa. You'd be much better getting a jasa or a j or y classic award.


Not really.. if you get a Y ASA seat taxes are included, you can take the points and $$ mix and it will come down very close to a classic, but it all depends on if there are classic award seats available.

Personally if i could do that i would over getting a classic award as I get SC's for the trip.
 
Sometimes you can get quite cheap airfares PER/SIN/PER on Jetstar specials so might be worth looking into that then trying to get a JASA SIN/LHR/SIN.

If it was me I'd use the minimum amount of points you can for the JASA which can sometimes be the same as the points required for a classic aware then pay for the rest ie the points and pay option.

The bonus is that you earn status credits and frequent flyer points for the JASA's as opposed to the classic award.

Had a look SIN/LHR on Tue 28 Jun & there is a FASA for 147,199 whereas a JASA is 311,221! On the return Tue 10 Aug on QF10 the FASA is 173,703 points 343,892.

252,000 points & SGD$1165.58 or all inclusive points or 327,070 no spend.
 
I am finding if i have 1 adult travelling there are some cheap JASA and FASA fares as pointed out by ozbeachbabe but when i select 2 adults travelling the cheap fares dissapear? If book one ticket then another will that work or do i run the risk it may be last cheaper fare?
 
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