Pax who fail to disclose medical conditions when travelling by air

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I cannot believe how some people risk the lives of either themselves or their loved ones by deliberately failing to disclose medical conditions that would require medical clearance prior to them being deemed fit to fly.

An elderly QLD couple who flew from a regional port to BNE for medical treatment for the woman were cleared for travel on the proviso that they must travel with their own C size oxygen inflight which they duly did on the way down (the regional carrier does not provide oxy it must be supplied by pax).

They turn up at BNE Airport for their flight home with the C size oxy cylinder asking if they can check it in because it's empty. When told they were only approved to travel if they had their sufficient oxygen for the flight they tried to absolve themselves of any responsibility with statements like "well she didn't need oxygen on the flight down", "well how are we supposed to arrange it, we came straight from the motel this morning & we don't have a car", "look, my wife just wants to go home" etc.

It was clearly an effort for the woman who was also in a wheelchair to even speak without exerting herself & by her own admission was on oxygen because she'd had a lung removed.

Despite the efforts by the airline to contact ground engineers (who can't refill pax oxy bottles), RFDS, Airport firies & other organisations on behalf of the pax, nobody could assist with refilling the oxy bottle & the end result was they had to go back to the hospital.

The piece de resistance was when the woman angrily said "so you're refusing to uplift me then, I'll be speaking to a solicitor about this". As if this wasn't enough her husband said "I should have just lied & not told you". This is his wife's life we're talking about here.

Given the circumstances, it is certainly not beyond the realms of possibility that this woman could have died inflight had she needed oxygen and not had it.

It also makes me wonder how many other cases out there were someone has died on a flight or become ill requiring the flight to divert enroute, is a result of non-disclosure of a medical condition.
 
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It also makes me wonder how many other cases out there were someone has died on a flight or become ill requiring the flight to divert enroute, is a result of non-disclosure of a medical condition.

Not surprising. We live in a "It's all about me. Screw everyone else" society these days. The only important thing to most people is getting things they want sorted - regardless of what rules might prevent them doing so.

And when that fails - threaten legal action. Yep, gets things sorted quick smart.

I blame "Bogan Delight" and "A Bogan is there" (Incase others don't get the reference - "Today Tonight" and "A Current Affair") for many of the ills in society.
 
Unfortunately I am prevented from recounting some of the events i know of.Let me tell you what you describe is nothing.
 
And here's betting the recent heart attack victim maybe needed to disclose his pre flight medical condition...
 
It takes all types! People may be desperate to get where they're going, but that's no excuse to put themselves at unnecessary risk, not to mention the potential inconvenience and/or distress caused to other pax should they expire mid-flight.
 
What surprised me is that the woman could hardly draw a breath that wouldn't even resuscitate a fly, yet she had enough in her to threaten you with her solicitor?!

What a story. :evil: If drron says this is just scratching the surface then I am just going to be absolutely flabbergasted at whatever he's got to say.

Luckily the man didn't lie and they went on board. If the woman had died the airline would have been in absolutely deep **** trying to absolve itself of responsibility (after all, no one would check the tank was empty before they boarded, let alone they had complied with the relevant medical procedures); even if it could it would be a complete Pyrric victory and you can bet the media would have a huge field day at QF's expense.

Just for kicks, I hope the lady does seek legal advice and then gets shot down in the process. The humiliation might just cause her to kick the bucket. For your legal sake, I hope you have a "trail", e.g. a witness or a report.
 
What surprised me is that the woman could hardly draw a breath that wouldn't even resuscitate a fly, yet she had enough in her to threaten you with her solicitor?!

I don't think she was taking aim directly at any individual but the airline was certainly in her sights! :shock: :shock:
 
Just to clear up my comments were not about this particular case.There are some amazing stories out there though.
 
Just to clear up my comments were not about this particular case.There are some amazing stories out there though.

I was trying to say that that which I have emboldened was what I am most scared of.
 
And l bet that some of these people will end up on AFF or FT as a 1 post wonder bashing the airline that declined them....
 
Once I heard a passenger on board a QF plane say to a flight attendant that he was heading home to die.
The crew let him fly after lots of discussion with the flight deck and he needed in flight oxygen. That was a long time ago.
Good travel insurance now includes Medivac evacuation so it can get you a nurse to accompany you home in the case where you experience an adverse health event.
 
Hopefully the Airline involved would launch a counter claim in any legal action that may arise. ;)
 
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Hopefully the Airline involved would launch a counter claim in any legal action that may arise. ;)

And what are they going to get back from a diversion that costs $100,000?

Deb, 24, Bankrupt, lives off welfare, has 0 assets once you discount the huge plasma TV and the x-box?
 
Well, since I have had people lie about their medical conditions to get surgery nothing shocks me.

"I didn't want to tell you about my recent near-fatal heart attack because then you might not do my elective procedure". Yep, because I love adding people back onto the near-endless waitlist, it has nothing to do with the fact that your unnecessary surgery MIGHT KILL YOU! :evil:

To be fair, there's not a lot of teaching in the medical curriculum about who can and can't fly, and each airline holds different policies and restrictions, so many doctors may not have any idea about what restrictions apply. The only reason I am feeling in any way intelligent on the subject is because I spent about 3 hours googling the policies :lol: to win an argument about whether or not you can fly with an intact full cast (Answer: yes, as long as the injury is more than 3-5days old, depending on airline, otherwise the cast needs splitting).

That said, for someone who has been told of the need to travel with oxygen there isn't any excuse for trying to board with an empty canister. Not to mention that the person in question must have needed it at some point, if it came down full and was now empty!
 
I guess this is the ultimate denial that there may be something wrong anecdote.

From The Times

April 7, 2010

Women 'tried to get dead body on easyJet flight in Liverpool'

Russell Jenkins

Two women tried to board an easyJet flight with a dead relative strapped into a wheelchair, saying that he was disabled, frail and “always likes to sleep like that”.
The widow and stepdaughter of Curt Willi Jarant, 91, insist that he was moving and breathing on the way to Liverpool John Lennon airport. But staff called a medical team after noticing that he was cold and motionless.

Still at least he wouldn't complain about the food.
 
I guess this is the ultimate denial that there may be something wrong anecdote.


That is absolutely crazy.

And l quote from the article below......

Two women tried to board an easyJet flight with a dead relative strapped into a wheelchair, saying that he was disabled, frail and “always likes to sleep like that”.
 
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