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The press release is somewhat confusing.

First it mentions 'direct' services - which imply there is a stop enroute. Then it says they are non-stop. Then it mentions the tie-in with Westjet offering 'connections' (which brings us back to the 'direct' rather than 'non-stop' concept).

Only at the very end are the flight details SYD-YVR.
 

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Interesting schedule. Departing Sydney on Saturday and Wednesday, so arriving into YVR on Saturday and Wednesday mornings. But return is departing late on Sundays and Thursdays, meaning 1.5 days between the aircraft arriving in YVR and departing YVR. So there must be some plans for the use of the operating aircraft in between. Perhaps some planned charter service? Would that be part of the reason for operating the QF76/76 flights in the first place? The timing is not right for it to ferry down to LA to operate the LAX-JFK portion of QF107/108.
 

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The press release is somewhat confusing.

First it mentions 'direct' services - which imply there is a stop enroute. Then it says they are non-stop. Then it mentions the tie-in with Westjet offering 'connections' (which brings us back to the 'direct' rather than 'non-stop' concept).

Only at the very end are the flight details SYD-YVR.

I disagree. Direct = Non-stop. There is no implication of a stop.

A routing with a stop, would be indirect. For example, SYD-LHR is indirect as it routes through DXB. SYD-HKG, on the other hand, is direct and therefore non-stop.
 

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I disagree. Direct = Non-stop. There is no implication of a stop.

A routing with a stop, would be indirect. For example, SYD-LHR is indirect as it routes through DXB. SYD-HKG, on the other hand, is direct and therefore non-stop.

In the industry, Direct does not mean non-stop. SYD-DXB-LHR is classified as Direct
 

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I disagree. Direct = Non-stop. There is no implication of a stop.

A routing with a stop, would be indirect. For example, SYD-LHR is indirect as it routes through DXB. SYD-HKG, on the other hand, is direct and therefore non-stop.
I disagree. In aviation parlance a direct flight is any flight between two points with no change in flight numbers; however this may include a stop at an intermediate point. An example of such a flight would be the QF1 service from SYD to LHR via DXB, assuming your final destination was LHR. Non-stop flights are flights involving no intermediate stops, so if your final destination was DXB instead your QF1 flight would be a non-stop (and also direct) flight.
 

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Interesting schedule. Departing Sydney on Saturday and Wednesday, so arriving into YVR on Saturday and Wednesday mornings. But return is departing late on Sundays and Thursdays, meaning 1.5 days between the aircraft arriving in YVR and departing YVR. So there must be some plans for the use of the operating aircraft in between. Perhaps some planned charter service? Would that be part of the reason for operating the QF76/76 flights in the first place? The timing is not right for it to ferry down to LA to operate the LAX-JFK portion of QF107/108.

Suggest 1.5 days crew rest before they fly it home is a possible reason to min cost of stationing extra crew to turn aircraft same day. They have done charters,especially for the cruise industry ,in the past from the UK to the Med
 

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Suggest 1.5 days crew rest before they fly it home is a possible reason to min cost of stationing extra crew to turn aircraft same day. They have done charters,especially for the cruise industry ,in the past from the UK to the Med
I would expect the crew costs are insignificant compared with the cost of parking a 747 on the ground for 1.5 days. My bet is there is planned charter operations taking frozen Canadians south to thaw out (HNL, MIA, LAS perhaps), perhaps for casinos, beaches or cruises on the in-between days. But of course this is just my own guess and I could be way off the mark. Either way, a great opportunity for Aussies wanting to hit the Canadian slopes in January.
 

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Excellent News QF!
Hopefully this announcement will lead to a permanent return for QF on the SYD > YVR sector in the near future.
It's great to see that QF wants to give YVR another crack & all being well turn The route into a success.
Now to get those bums on seats !
 
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I am so excited to hear this announcement. Thank you QF YVR-SYD direct. Is it just for January?
 

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I would expect the crew costs are insignificant compared with the cost of parking a 747 on the ground for 1.5 days.

I agree. If they wanted to do an immediate turn couldnt they either deadhead more crew up (say, in Y+) or take some LAX crew to operate the return? QF have up to 6 flights a day from LAX during this period - there would be plenty of crew around.

I could easily see the future of QFi being in the Americas - grow MEL-LAX to double daily, SYD-SCL to daily and eventually SYD-YVR to daily and then consider SYD-SFO.....
 

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Interesting. Good money in ski market, but one suspects turning this into a profitable year round operation may be more challenging. SQ doing similar thing in Dec/Jan to Sapporo ex-SIN to get people to ski-fields.
 

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I agree. If they wanted to do an immediate turn couldnt they either deadhead more crew up (say, in Y+) or take some LAX crew to operate the return? QF have up to 6 flights a day from LAX during this period - there would be plenty of crew around.
Would these flight times match up with the MEL supplementary flights during the same period? Maybe some of the flights will have aircraft operate SYD-YVR-LAX-MEL.

I could easily see the future of QFi being in the Americas - grow MEL-LAX to double daily, SYD-SCL to daily and eventually SYD-YVR to daily and then consider SYD-SFO.....
With what aircraft?
The only way I see that happening is if QFi ends up seeing a good number of the 789s (if those options ever get taken up)
 
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