Overhead locker assignment

[juddles]

Hello all,

I did a search but failed to find a thread that specifically addressed this issue. Please point me in the right direction if it exists....

But today I need to vent my frustration about overhead lockers.

Why is it impossible for airlines to assign specific overhead locker space to specific seats??

There is a lot of debate regarding priority boarding. My personal preference is to board last. The only enticing reason to get into an aircraft seat early is to secure your bag in the locker. I do a fair bit of flying, and as such I know the norms and am reasonable in what I take onboard. Just one appropriate size bag. But my carryon is very important to me, with my personal items, laptop, etc in it. It gives me the sh.ts when I see the cabin crew bringing forward oversize stuff from the Y cabin and stuffing it in ¨my¨ overhed locker in J, squashing my gear.

Am I being a snob feeling that way?? Again, why cant we have assigned storage space?

Thoughts anyone?

 

[simongr]

There isn't enough overhead space for everyone to have allocated space to match their allocation of baggage allowed. It would also be impossible to enforce.

 

[notzac]

As much as I understand your frustration - it's all shared space. I would take issue with pax in whY taking it upon themselves to have their hand luggage travel in J while they're up the back of the bus (especially if there's no space for your bags as a result) - but otherwise, yes, you're being a bit snobbish

 

[samh004]

Unless you're right at the front (and then I can understand about not having much space as the first locker is always smaller), what's wrong with under the seat in front of you?


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[juddles]

As much as I understand your frustration - it's all shared space. I would take issue with pax in whY taking it upon themselves to have their hand luggage travel in J while they're up the back of the bus (especially if there's no space for your bags as a result) - but otherwise, yes, you're being a bit snobbish

But why does it have to be ¨shared space¨???? Why cant airlines assign it?

And yes, I feel snobbish, but should I?

 

[notzac]

But why does it have to be ¨shared space¨???? Why cant airlines assign it?

Because there's simply not enough of it to go around.

 

[Mal]

Try catching a virgin Australia plane that travels over the ocean and doesn't have in-roof life rafts. You'll learn quickly what no overhead space means. And in this case business (or rather pe) guests often need to stash their bags in economy.

To me overheads are shared storage. Yes an econ pax shouldn't be using it without permission but i don't see a problem with fas using it for additional storage.

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[juddles]

Because there's simply not enough of it to go around.

With respect, that is not really a sound argument. Why is it so difficult to guarantee that with a seat you get X inches of overhead?

Unless you're right at the front (and then I can understand about not having much space as the first locker is always smaller), what's wrong with under the seat in front of you?


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That is exactly the frequent problem. In the first row there is no space underneath a seat in front of you. And as i am a tad over-tall, in any row it is a pain to put things on the floor.

 

[dk4]

Why is it so difficult to guarantee that with a seat you get X inches of overhead?

Once overhead lockers have locks (opened by key) installed (like many public lockers on the ground), airlines will then be able to guarantee space, once you pay extra $$$ to rent a key!

 

[Ansett]

Once overhead lockers have locks (opened by key) installed (like many public lockers on the ground), airlines will then be able to guarantee space, once you pay extra $$$ to rent a key!

AJ is already deep in talks with suppliers of prepaid Lockers we hear as an enhancement FFs may have 10 free lockers per year lol

 

[MatF]

With respect, that is not really a sound argument. Why is it so difficult to guarantee that with a seat you get X inches of overhead?

You may have to take a smaller bag than you do now - because currently those people who take no carry-on baggage, or (like me) a small shoulder bag, are effectively subsiding those who bring bigger bags.

If everyone had an allocated and reserved x inches of overhead space, some would be empty, or nearly empty. Currently other people are able to use that space.

 

[elbarto]

As much as I understand your frustration - it's all shared space. I would take issue with pax in whY taking it upon themselves to have their hand luggage travel in J while they're up the back of the bus (especially if there's no space for your bags as a result) - but otherwise, yes, you're being a bit snobbish

I've seen that happen once on a BA flight I was on. I was sitting in J and the pax didn't even bother getting as far back as their seats. They just saw empty space and shoved their bags in and kept going.

I think the real issues with cabin baggage stem from the failure or unwillingness of airlines to properly enforce their own policies. It doesn't help that fees for checking in bags and lack of confidence in airlines to get bags back to passengers promptly after the flight arrives contributes to people taking more as carryon.

 

[trooper]

MatF got it in one...

IF everyone was allocated an equal amount of overhead space... that space would NOT accomodate (for example) a rollaboard per person...
there simply isn't enough room... so unless you expect someone with no carry on to "subsidise" your space.. you would need to reduce the size of your carry on (as would everyone else)

If that is a solution that appeals then fair enough... I suspect however that it would not appeal to most others....

The current system (where some travellers use less than their "share" allowing more space for folks who are ,say, connnecting to an international flight and have a rollaboard plus laptop fr'instance) works for me.. and seemingly for many, many others...

 

[Moody]

I think anyone who shoves their bag in the first available locker (often J) and then walks down the aisle to their seat should be rewarded by removing their bag to the very back of the hold. Or if that is too hard they should be sent on the next available flight as unaccompanied baggage.

The is a definite ettiquette with carry-on which goes somthing like this :-

Thou shalt not put thy luggage in any cabin but your own
Thou shalt first try the luggage space above your seat, and then the rows to the forward and rear - but not more than a count of three (3)
Thou shalt stack your bags/coats wherever possible, and if you need to stack another pax's bag, then theirs should be on the top - not yours.
If there is no room for your bag, sit down with it on your lap until everyone has boarded, and then ask for assistance from the crew. Don't faff about blocking the aisle!
When disembarking do not push and shove your way to your bag - ask politely if it can be passed to you.

There are 5 more COLC's .... but that will do for now.

 

[Fruitcake]

I think anyone who shoves their bag in the first available locker (often J) and then walks down the aisle to their seat should be rewarded by removing their bag to the very back of the hold. Or if that is too hard they should be sent on the next available flight as unaccompanied baggage.

Personally, I'd ask a couple of people nearby if it's theirs. Then declare it a piece of unattended baggage, remove it, and blow it up.

 

[richie9x]

I think anyone who shoves their bag in the first available locker (often J) and then walks down the aisle to their seat should be rewarded by removing their bag to the very back of the hold. Or if that is too hard they should be sent on the next available flight as unaccompanied baggage.

Qantas usually seem to leave the business class lockers on 737s closed at the beginning of boarding. What I believe is an attempt to stop this happening.

I didn't use to believe that that happened, until I saw it happen. Just seems a totally self centred thing to do. It might make things a bit easier for the person doing it, but causes more hassles for others. One flight on a Qantas 737 I was the first person seated in row 4 (or any of the first 3 row for that matter), yet somehow there was already a bag in the little half locker over row 4. On another flight I saw a guy board and put his bag above row 4 then continue walking down to about row 11. When others sitting in row 4 boarded they had to put their bags quite a few rows back.

Luckily it doesn't seem to happen all that much.

Also saw a guy pull a head phones bag out of the locker and dump it in the middle of the aisle and leave it there like a petulant child.

 

[Canny man]

Here's the solution for QF to differentiate.
Flights where pax can't fly unless they agree to abide by the AFF 10 Commandments:

Thou shalt not-
Recline on a flight under 4 hours in Y
Use overhead baggage space that is not directly above your seat
Fail to follow priority boarding signs and instructions
Talk during the safety demo
Have a body circumference greater than the width of your seat
Have headphones that leak noise
Engage staff in conversation to the extent that drinks service is slowed up
Spend more than 15 sec's filling the tray with your items for security
Fail to treat FA's with respect and graciousness
Bring a child onto a plane who doesn't know how to sit quietly for a few hours

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[MatF]

Here's the solution for QF to differentiate.
Flights where pax can't fly unless they agree to abide by the AFF 10 Commandments:

Thou shalt not-
Recline on a flight under 4 hours in Y
Use overhead baggage space that is not directly above your seat
Fail to follow priority boarding signs and instructions
Talk during the safety demo
Have a body circumference greater than the width of your seat
Have headphones that leak noise
Engage staff in conversation to the extent that drinks service is slowed up
Spend more than 15 sec's filling the tray with your items for security
Fail to treat FA's with respect and graciousness
Bring a child onto a plane who doesn't know how to sit quietly for a few hours

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Hehe, I like it, though this one:

Have a body circumference greater than the width of your seat

is out by a factor of pi (or is that pie)

Can I add one about reading large format newpapers onboard, particularly in a Y centre seat ?

 

[medhead]

I often find it's crew bags in the little locker over row 4 on 737s. Not exactly an ideal place for them to stow their bags. But they gotta go somewhere.


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[LONRHO]

Airlines made the mistake of charging people to check baggage in.this does not slow down the departure or arrival of the plane(ie people deplaning0.airlines should charge for carry on.then sit back and see how easy it will be to get on and off a plane.not to mention less accidents with items falling out of lockers,arguments of who owns the space,squashing items on top of other people's property,etc.
Pay for the privilege of carrying it on and see how it goes!!!!!