Oneworld Classic Flight Reward Discussion - The Definitive Thread

[MEL_Traveller]

What about Schengen immigration? Don't you have to go through that if coming from outside Schengen but connecting to a Schengen county?

HEL MCT takes that into account. But for the OP, not much choice, and if it’s in the one ticket, they will be fine. Their primary objective is to ‘save’ the stopover… so if they miss the connection, and re-route will preserve that stopover.

 

[atulhumane]

Hey Experts,

Sorry for the stupid question,
Can I change any flight sector (source and destination) from the OWA itenary? And do they charge the change fee or cancellation fee for this.

Example: one flight in my itinerary is HKG-BRU.

Can I change the source or destination or cancell it and add MNL-CDG instead as far as it meets the miles rule.

Thanks

 

[Captain Halliday]

Can I change any flight sector (source and destination) from the OWA itenary?

Yes. If the revised itinerary remains within the published rules.

do they charge the change fee or cancellation fee for this.

You’ll be charged the change fee.

 

[Roman Sandstorm]

Guys,

I really appreciate your responses.

Mel_Traveller: On a single ticket? Then the connection is fine. If you miss it, they’ll reaccommodate you on another flight.

If it’s a separate ticket, then HEL will count as a stopover anyway

I guess I'm having a little trouble conceptually with the exact terminology: connection, stopover, flight, transit, sector, itinerary, ticket, etc. Some of these may not quite have the 'obvious' standard English meaning.

So... I have a OneWorld Classic Rewards ticket, already booked, approved, paid, emailed to me. (I plan to make changes/removals/additions, hence this question, among others.) I created the ticket using the online multi-city tool. It took a looooong time!

MEL-DPS
DPS-HKG
HKG-HEL (HKG-ICN, ICN-HEL)
HEL-HND
HND-MNL
MNL-MEL (MNL-SYD, SYD-MEL)

These six 'flights' include two 'transits' of a few hours each, in ICN and MNL.

I'm wanting to add the HEL-BGO I mentioned in my earier post, that has to short turnaround time. If I add tha tinto a shortened version of this itinerary, the tool accepts it.

So, when you say 'on a single ticket' does this mean the whole lot? Or would it mean like the HKG-HEL section, which as the brief transit in ICN? Obviously, if the first leg of that was delayed, the carrier would have to arrange for another to HEL for me.

But if HEL-BGO is accepted, as an addition to this, is that what you mean?

I know my question may seem naive, or pedantic, but with no previous experience, and no real glossary/wiki/etc with this level or depth of information, this crowd-sharing resource is the best way.

 

[Roman Sandstorm]

You should be fine, Helsinki is an amazingly efficient airport. Twice we have been through there with connections less than an hour and done it easily. I think the MCT is somewhere around 40 - 45 minutes.

So, coming from ICN, I am thinking that I would remain airside?

I would have to collect my luggage from the carousel, but would remain inside of security, immigration etc?

And then just take my bag to check-in for the next flight?

Is this correct?

 

[Captain Halliday]

when you say 'on a single ticket' does this mean the whole lot?

Yes. The entire ticket on the PNR you hold. The Ticket number should be at the top and start with 081.

Or would it mean like the HKG-HEL section, which as the brief transit in ICN?

No.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

Guys,

I really appreciate your responses.



I guess I'm having a little trouble conceptually with the exact terminology: connection, stopover, flight, transit, sector, itinerary, ticket, etc. Some of these may not quite have the 'obvious' standard English meaning.

So... I have a OneWorld Classic Rewards ticket, already booked, approved, paid, emailed to me. (I plan to make changes/removals/additions, hence this question, among others.) I created the ticket using the online multi-city tool. It took a looooong time!

MEL-DPS
DPS-HKG
HKG-HEL (HKG-ICN, ICN-HEL)
HEL-HND
HND-MNL
MNL-MEL (MNL-SYD, SYD-MEL)

These six 'flights' include two 'transits' of a few hours each, in ICN and MNL.

I'm wanting to add the HEL-BGO I mentioned in my earier post, that has to short turnaround time. If I add tha tinto a shortened version of this itinerary, the tool accepts it.

So, when you say 'on a single ticket' does this mean the whole lot? Or would it mean like the HKG-HEL section, which as the brief transit in ICN? Obviously, if the first leg of that was delayed, the carrier would have to arrange for another to HEL for me.

But if HEL-BGO is accepted, as an addition to this, is that what you mean?

I know my question may seem naive, or pedantic, but with no previous experience, and no real glossary/wiki/etc with this level or depth of information, this crowd-sharing resource is the best way.

By adding BGO you will be changing your current stopover in HEL to make it one in BGO instead.

You’re adding one sector, no issues there.

As you’re adding the sector to your existing ticket, you’re protected in the event you miss it.

If you were saying to us that you wanted to keep your existing ticket, but buy a separate ticket to BGO, then you wouldn’t be protected. And the chances of missing the BGO sector would increase in the event the inbound flight from HND was late. You’d potentially lose your money for the BGO flight.

But that’s not the case here.

Presumably you are making your own way back to HEL for an extended stay? If you don’t want an extended stay in HEL you could also just add another flight BGO-HEL and then onwards to HND.

Or you could pick anywhere else to fly back to could fly back from Paris or London or wherever.

Staying ‘airside’ means you do not enter the country. It’s the same as you’re HKG-ICN-HEL… you are staying airside in ICN. You just complete security and go straight to your next flight.

 

[atulhumane]

Yes. If the revised itinerary remains within the published rules.

You’ll be charged the change fee.

Thanks Captain

 

[shankoz]

You should be fine, Helsinki is an amazingly efficient airport. Twice we have been through there with connections less than an hour and done it easily. I think the MCT is somewhere around 40 - 45 minutes.

Just to add another thumbs up for Helsinki Airport - have done at least three connections there with transit times of 60-90 minutes and they are incredibly efficient. This includes coming from outside the Schengen area and thus needing to clear immigration first. I would not worry.