Non-Stop Flights

[Foreigner]

Informative info from Wikipedia:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-stop_flight#Currently_scheduled_.28top_30.2C_by_distance.29

 

[RooFlyer]

That's an interesting read, thanks.

 

[PaulST]

Number 21 is my longed - QF93 (MEL-LAX). Fortunately I was in J so it was more tolerable.

 

[Fiches Mouser]

This is a rather incredible tidbit from the 18.5 hour SQ 21 (SIN-EWR):

"Singapore Airlines has equipped its new aircraft with special cupboards big enough to take a corpse in case any passengers die en route."

 

[PaulST]

This is a rather incredible tidbit from the 18.5 hour SQ 21 (SIN-EWR):

"Singapore Airlines has equipped its new aircraft with special cupboards big enough to take a corpse in case any passengers die en route."

I recall reading that a cooled compartment that could take a body was an option on the A380 too. I'm not sure if any airline took it up.

 

[cgichard]

I recall reading that a cooled compartment that could take a body was an option on the A380 too. I'm not sure if any airline took it up.

Now you are stimulating ideas for a new murder mystery plot.

 

[Dr Ralph]

I know the plane couldn't do it commercially yet, but could anyone do the 22+ hrs straight to London if it was available?

 

[AIRwin]

Now you are stimulating ideas for a new murder mystery plot.

Murder on the Federal Express?

 

[Fiches Mouser]

I know the plane couldn't do it commercially yet, but could anyone do the 22+ hrs straight to London if it was available?

Only in EY F...

 

[TomVexille]

I know the plane couldn't do it commercially yet, but could anyone do the 22+ hrs straight to London if it was available?

I think I'd survive if it was in F

 

[Cruiser Elite]

"Singapore Airlines has equipped its new aircraft with special cupboards big enough to take a corpse in case any passengers die en route."

Ah huh - and not so far from the truth - infinity and myself been oh so close on a number of occasions - commonly known in SQ lingo as 'Krugal Drowning Syndrome'!

 

[Scr77]

I know the plane couldn't do it commercially yet, but could anyone do the 22+ hrs straight to London if it was available?

The Boeing factory has has a range chart which shows that a 777 can do Melbourne-New York non stop.

 

[Himeno]

The Boeing factory has has a range chart which shows that a 777 can do Melbourne-New York non stop.

Which doesn't factor in load, wind, etc.
A 747 can do LHR-SYD non stop. With no more then 30 people on board.

 

[jb747]

Range of any aircraft is closely related to the length of a piece of string. The further you go, the more payload is displaced by fuel, until ultimately, you carry only fuel and no cargo or passengers. Ultra long range ops are far more affected by weather than shorter flights, simply because there is less option for carriage of alternate or holding fuel, plus there is much more opportunity for adverse winds or ATC to increase the fuel burn.

The tonne of fuel you burn at the end of the flight has cost you another tonne simply to carry it.

You can't go fast. And it will never be cheap.

The overall saving in time may be minimal compared to the costs incurred. Some sums done a few years ago, showed that you'd burn less fuel, and have more payload available, by doing Australia UK in 3 sectors compared to 2.

 

[Deleted member]

Range of any aircraft is closely related to the length of a piece of string. The further you go, the more payload is displaced by fuel, until ultimately, you carry only fuel and no cargo or passengers. Ultra long range ops are far more affected by weather than shorter flights, simply because there is less option for carriage of alternate or holding fuel, plus there is much more opportunity for adverse winds or ATC to increase the fuel burn.

The tonne of fuel you burn at the end of the flight has cost you another tonne simply to carry it.

You can't go fast. And it will never be cheap.

The overall saving in time may be minimal compared to the costs incurred. Some sums done a few years ago, showed that you'd burn less fuel, and have more payload available, by doing Australia UK in 3 sectors compared to 2.

So the study of this would be called "string theory"?

 

[jb747]

So the study of this would be called "string theory"?

Shortly after I joined the airline, I was in a class in which in flight calculations for diversions, etc, were being discussed. I made a comment to the effect that I could work out the answer accurately, and covering many more of the variables, simply using a chart and a piece of thread. Many years later, when the bloke who was running the course was a Classic Captain, I flew with him....and in the middle of the night, out came a chart and a piece of thread.

Can any of you work it out? You know where you are. Where you want to go. The average wind. The average true airspeed. Average fuel flow, required reserves, and average fuel flow.

 

[coriander]

Number 21 is my longest - QF93 (MEL-LAX).

Emirates now pip QF8 by 11 miles :shock: (EK's 8588 miles vs QF's 8577 miles) for a DXB- Panama City flight (in which case I've done 2 and 22 on an amended Wiki list).

 

[TomVexille]

Emirates now pip QF8 by 11 miles :shock: (EK's 8588 miles vs QF's 8577 miles) for a DXB- Panama City flight (in which case I've done 2 and 22 on an amended Wiki list).

Has that started yet?

 

[coriander]

Has that started yet?

Good point. I just did a dummy booking, stepping through the months: it seems to start on 01-02-2016.

 

[Turbo-g]

Shortly after I joined the airline, I was in a class in which in flight calculations for diversions, etc, were being discussed. I made a comment to the effect that I could work out the answer accurately, and covering many more of the variables, simply using a chart and a piece of thread. Many years later, when the bloke who was running the course was a Classic Captain, I flew with him....and in the middle of the night, out came a chart and a piece of thread.

Can any of you work it out? You know where you are. Where you want to go. The average wind. The average true airspeed. Average fuel flow, required reserves, and average fuel flow.

And if i do can i get the chance to share the knowledge from the jump seat? With all the technology available I'd love the call to come across the cabin " Does anybody have any string on board?"