New York in December - worth the inflated pricing?

[Dave G]

$204 USD per night for 2 DBL SUITE PREM NONSMOKIN Jan 3-6
Fitted all 6 of us - 2 adults, 19,17,13 and 11 year old - kids shared beds
Have to love a Hilton best price guarantee

 

[Gianni S]

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We're going this year for Xmas 22nd Dec - 28 Dec and found the hotel prices actually pretty good, lower than what i thought they would be especially for Xmas. Ended up choosing Park Lane Hotel directly opposite central park. We chose the Junior Suite Park View Room came to about $360 a night which i thought was pretty reasonable for Xmas
Park Lane New York | Central Park Hotel | NYC Hotel

if you are looking to book use the link below which is via tripadvisor and you will save an extra 20%

https://parklanenewyork.reztrip.com...m_medium=referral&utm_source=tripadvisor&vr=3

 

[rock86]

After doing a little further digging, it does seem (basing on this years pricing anyhow) as an earlier poster alluded to that Thanksgiving and the first ten or so days are very high and then it drops up until Christmas and rises significantly after Christmas until NYE.

The only issue is then getting reward flights home right before Christmas, which may prove difficult with no status.

 

[akmacca]

Have you considered Airbnb? For $400 a night you should be able to find a very nice apartment close to all the attractions. I also believe you will get more bang for your buck with an Airbnb stay and get to stay amongst New Yorkers rather than in a busy hotel filled with Christmas tourists. I have stayed in 70 Airbnb's around the world and had just one unsatisfactory stay. Now into my sixth week of a Harlem Airbnb stay and loving it.

 

[get me outta here]

In most circumstances in New York Airbnb is illegal and there is a risk of losing your money and the accommodation.

Have you considered Airbnb? For $400 a night you should be able to find a very nice apartment close to all the attractions. I also believe you will get more bang for your buck with an Airbnb stay and get to stay amongst New Yorkers rather than in a busy hotel filled with Christmas tourists. I have stayed in 70 Airbnb's around the world and had just one unsatisfactory stay. Now into my sixth week of a Harlem Airbnb stay and loving it.

 

[cove]

We just signed up for a US$499 for 3 nights at the Marriott Marquis in New York. We qualified by staying now. I paid $99 USD deposit. Great location if you are doing shows.

 

[Dr Ralph]

Have you considered Airbnb?

Very bad advice. Most Airbnb offerings are illegal. Google to see the horror stories of people arriving to find that their bookings have not been honored and money lost.

 

[rock86]

We just signed up for a US$499 for 3 nights at the Marriott Marquis in New York. We qualified by staying now. I paid $99 USD deposit. Great location if you are doing shows.

Not sure I follow what you're saying here cove. Was this a special offer, or because of a recent stay?

 

[cove]

Rock86 I have paid for 4 nights in a 5 night stay at the Marriott Marquis this time and with a Times Square view that is really good I think we have paid about $1800 USD for the upgraded room.
I had just talked to the front desk and I was approached by the chap from Marriott Vacations seeing I was a guest at the hotel. He signed up several while I was down near check in.
We will have to endure a sales pitch to get the next deal but I have done that more than once.

 

[rock86]

Rock86 I have paid for 4 nights in a 5 night stay at the Marriott Marquis this time and with a Times Square view that is really good I think we have paid about $1800 USD for the upgraded room.
I had just talked to the front desk and I was approached by the chap from Marriott Vacations seeing I was a guest at the hotel. He signed up several while I was down near check in.
We will have to endure a sales pitch to get the next deal but I have done that more than once.

Ah ok makes sense now.

We've done the Accor vacation club sales pitch once, and we agreed to never do one again. While the pitch was fine, when I questioned them about their method of calculations on the so called 'savings' (where they completely disregarded a yearly management fee that is charged) they tried to make it out as if I was the one with no idea and that the management fee shouldn't be included as it's not an accommodation cost - yeah ok. Not to mention they conveniently leave out the difficulty in selling their time shares (which was lucky I had read online before I entered the pitch), but they just kept being very pushy and coming back to it being a deal of a lifetime, even after we said no 2 or 3 times.

So never again for us, as it's not worth the cheap stay to put up with those kinds of situations IMO.

 

[cove]

I am good at No means No. I can see how folks could be intimidated by high pressure sales tactics. I had better look up what Marriott time share resales are selling for in the “after market”.
Accor messed me around royally to do with their rewards program so we rarely book one of their places.

 

[rock86]

I am good at No means No. I can see how folks could be intimidated by high pressure sales tactics. I had better look up what Marriott time share resales are selling for in the “after market”.
Accor messed me around royally to do with their rewards program so we rarely book one of their places.

I agree about folks being intimidated into an 'investment' in those situations. I know people whinge about rewards programs and how some should be investigated by the ACCC, but these practices by the relevant chains vacation clubs (even though they state there is no affiliation....) are much worse IMO and need to be reigned in.

 

[cove]

I used to get pissed off when I got stiffed on loyalty points but now I just avoid those companies. We just stay elsewhere. I use IHG and Marriott as they have been honest.

 

[get me outta here]

I had no intention of buying into a Marriott timeshare so they started lowering the price as an inducement. Even then, if I remember correctly, it was still around AUD25K. I don’t remember the ongoings. Attending a presentation is however a great way to get a good and cheap 3 night room in one of their expensive hotels such as cove mentions above. Best advice, have a water tight exit strategy to get away and stick to it.

 

[Lynda2475]

Some misinformation on this thread. Airbnb as a whole is not illegal in New York, only complete apartment/house short term sublets are illegal. So whilst you cannot legally rent out a whole apartment on AirBNB for less than 30 days, you can rent out rooms within your apartment provided the owner is also in residence at the time, specifically "Listings for a room in a home where the host is present, or apartments in a ‘Class A’ building (one that houses less than three families) are still allowed"

I've stayed in an AirBNB on lower east side of new york, my last two visits. The hosts rent out a room and ensuite and give you access to the kitchen, lounge, roof top terrace and laundry. This isnt an illegal sublet, as is really no different to having friends come and stay since they are home the whole time.

So if your happy to do more of the traditional style bnb approach where owners are also in residence, you can book an AirBNB without fear - just filter out the whole apartment sublets.

 

[get me outta here]

As I mentioned, it is legal under certain circumstances. Yes, Ok if you want to share with your hosts or stay over 30 days. Other than that, it is illegal. I too stayed in a loft in the LES. I wonder if it was the same one. But, I suspect most people do not want to live in a stranger's apartment where they rate you on your ability to be a perfect guest.

Some misinformation on this thread. Airbnb as a whole is not illegal in New York, only complete apartment/house short term sublets are illegal. So whilst you cannot legally rent out a whole apartment on AirBNB for less than 30 days, you can rent out rooms within your apartment provided the owner is also in residence at the time, specifically "Listings for a room in a home where the host is present, or apartments in a ‘Class A’ building (one that houses less than three families) are still allowed"

I've stayed in an AirBNB on lower east side of new york, my last two visits. The hosts rent out a room and ensuite and give you access to the kitchen, lounge, roof top terrace and laundry. This isnt an illegal sublet, as is really no different to having friends come and stay since they are home the whole time.

So if your happy to do more of the traditional style bnb approach where owners are also in residence, you can book an AirBNB without fear - just filter out the whole apartment sublets.

 

[Lynda2475]

I've stayed with the same hosts last two times, we get along so well that I consider them friends now A good host gives you space and as much or as little contact as you need - you can sus this out with pre-stay communications. I'm a great house guest, low maintenance and as a regular NY visitor dont need any assistance.

Set up of property helps too, given my super hosts have another ensuite and private lounge off their bedroom, they can easily give free reign of the common areas to their guests.

 

[Dr Ralph]

Some misinformation on this thread.

Really?

Not that I could see.

 

[drron]

We used to stay in NYC a lot when our son lived there.Many times at Christmas as there is a NYC Christmas cardiology conference.
It is always much cheaper to book 12 months out.On a couple of occasions we had friends visit at the same time.I well remember getting them a 2 bedroom apartment in a hotel for ~ $US300 in January and it being ~ $US1500 by july.I doubt it gets as cheap now.

On AirBNB you can stay in an apartment that is owned by the person occupying it or is a condominium.If the person hosting is a tenant and you are paying them the landlord has to be informed.He will then usually up the rent.If not informed he/she may evict you and the tenant.

 

[sjk]

Really?

Not that I could see.

Highly disingenuous response to a post made around an hour and a half before the latest edit to your post (#27). Your original post did not make the same qualification.