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I have decided that if I go it will be Premium economy. This might be the only time I fly to Europe at my age (53) and so I might as well be comfortable. Unfortunately her indoors doesnt agree and reckons economy is the go.

So I need to convince her and I know I would feel better in Premium.
 
I have decided that if I go it will be Premium economy. This might be the only time I fly to Europe at my age (53) and so I might as well be comfortable. Unfortunately her indoors doesnt agree and reckons economy is the go.

So I need to convince her and I know I would feel better in Premium.

Easy. Buy her an economy seat. Buy yourself a premium one. That way you both get what you want.
 
Easy. Buy her an economy seat. Buy yourself a premium one. That way you both get what you want.

Haha, love it.
Bet I'd be the one who ends up in economy while her indoors grabs the premium.
 
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OK, I ahave been looking at Qantas flights to London. I feel much better about premium economy & just need to decide between 747 or A380.

I do understand its a bit of roulette as to which plane you get.

Looking at the 747 fleet, Qantas has some really old 747's and newer ones like 2003 (extended range) so flying to London are you likely to get an older or newer 747 ?
 
You are unlikely to get an ER on a flight to London.

Quite honestly, I think the entire 'age' thing is a bit of a furphy. I've had as much trouble from new aircraft as I've had from old. Probably more....

The A380 is flying most of the 9/10 and 31/32, and it's pretty easy to look up which days they are doing. That's quite stable now. The 747 does all of the 29/30 and 1/2.

As much as the 747 will always be my favourite, the A380 offers a better passenger experience.
 
The A380 is flying most of the 9/10 and 31/32, and it's pretty easy to look up which days they are doing. That's quite stable now. The 747 does all of the 29/30 and 1/2.

As much as the 747 will always be my favourite, the A380 offers a better passenger experience.

Thanks for the reply, I didnt quite understand the 9/10 or 31/32. So most likely we would get an older 747 to London.

Makes me lean towards the A380, as long as that Nancy Bird unit isnt the one I get. I think also people have said that premium is a little better on the a380.
 
Thanks for the reply, I didnt quite understand the 9/10 or 31/32. So most likely we would get an older 747 to London.

Makes me lean towards the A380, as long as that Nancy Bird unit isnt the one I get. I think also people have said that premium is a little better on the a380.

9/10 and 31/32 are the flight numbers i.e QF9, QF10, QF31 and QF32

*Nancy Bird isn't moving anywhere any time soon.
 
Makes me lean towards the A380, as long as that Nancy Bird unit isnt the one I get. I think also people have said that premium is a little better on the a380.

If VH-OQA (Nancy Bird) were in operation, i'd not hesitate in the slightest to fly her.

The amount of work that will be put in to getting her back in the sky will be astonishing. It'll be like a brand new bird once it's up there. They're not going to mess around with the repairs.

A repaired aircraft is not less safe than a brand new one, if repairs are done correctly.

As i've mentioned before, you'll be much much happier on the A380 if you don't like feeling confined in an aircraft. The cabin is a far more pleasant environment to be in for a long haul flight than any 747.
 
If VH-OQA (Nancy Bird) were in operation, i'd not hesitate in the slightest to fly her.

The amount of work that will be put in to getting her back in the sky will be astonishing. It'll be like a brand new bird once it's up there. They're not going to mess around with the repairs.

A repaired aircraft is not less safe than a brand new one, if repairs are done correctly.

Just like a car, if it's been in an accident it will never ever be as strong as a factory built. It's just not designed to have addons and major replacements. Just like it's value would now have significantly dropped.

While its probably fine to fly on, you wont ever catch me on Nancy bird!
 
Just like a car, if it's been in an accident it will never ever be as strong as a factory built. It's just not designed to have addons and major replacements. Just like it's value would now have significantly dropped.

Simply not true.

Aircraft are quite easily reskinned, and frames and stringers (i.e. the skelton) are simply replaced at manufacturing junctions. OJK, the Manila aircraft, would have been every bit as strong as new when it was returned to service.

As for value...it's an Airbus..do they have any second hand value?
 
You could add OJH to that list. Still going around nearly some 12 yrs after its landing mishap in BKK

*As for planes involved in incidents, I couldn't tell the difference between QPA the February after QF72 compared to any other A333.
 
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Just like a car, if it's been in an accident it will never ever be as strong as a factory built. It's just not designed to have addons and major replacements. Just like it's value would now have significantly dropped. While its probably fine to fly on, you wont ever catch me on Nancy bird!

I think it would be hard to avoid a particular aircraft, is it published what aircraft are operating what particular routes?

I think if it is certified to fly it would pass all the tests?
 
Thanks fellas, you have all been really patient.

I think I need to get past this, I will probably go the a380. I need to have faith that the issue last year has been fixed. Not only that but whatever they did would have been tested to ensure that it complies with safety standards and that incident shouldnt happen again.
 
Thanks fellas, you have all been really patient.

I think I need to get past this, I will probably go the a380. I need to have faith that the issue last year has been fixed. Not only that but whatever they did would have been tested to ensure that it complies with safety standards and that incident shouldn't happen again.

I am absolutely certain that the cause of the failure on Nancy has been identified and fixed. They found the 'smoking gun' very early in the piece. Whilst there have been various media discussions about different models of the engine, the cause was simply an oil pipe that had been poorly machined. That had left a junction on the pipe, which in turn gave the various vibrations something that that they could break. The earliest inspections were to make sure that no other such machining faults existed, and the later mods changed the design.
 
Another solution I might offer would be to find one of those courses that helps people with fear of flying. I have no idea how good or otherwise they are, but might be worth a try.

As to the safety of repaired aircraft, I don't think they should be compared to cars, as the initial investment in a 747/A380 is obviously much greater then for a car, and while with damage to a car it might be more cost effective to replace the car (Hence cars are never as strong once they have been repaired) with aircraft this is not so, and hence are designed to be as strong as ever after repairs. I once on a school tour visited a hanger at Avalon where 747's underwent extensive maintainance. What they do is virtually pull the whole aircraft to pieces, replace any parts that are defective, then rebuild the whole plane, so virtually every plane in the air has had many new parts, and has been virtually rebuilt many times.

This rebuilding process is the process that a badly damaged plane will undergo during repairs anyway, and therefore will be just as safe as any other after being repaired.
 
Another solution I might offer would be to find one of those courses that helps people with fear of flying..

Reading too much stuff on the internet doesnt help at all, not here but through google.

Only yesterday I read a scary article from Ben Sandliands re Qantas & maintenance. Now the reason that was scary was because this bloke has been around a while and I guess he knows what he's on about. If I can find the link again I will post it.
 
Remember that Sandilands is trying to sell something. I find his articles to be very mixed. Some are spot on (the facts) and others so far off base that they don't contain any facts at all.
 
Remember that Sandilands is trying to sell something. I find his articles to be very mixed. Some are spot on (the facts) and others so far off base that they don't contain any facts at all.

I think it's very fair to say that Sandilands displays a continual anti-Qantas bias.
 
Another solution I might offer would be to find one of those courses that helps people with fear of flying. I have no idea how good or otherwise they are, but might be worth a try.

Indeed as mentioned in post #23.

Looks pretty good, I want to do it myself, bit expensive but would be great.
 
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