NAB Gold 100 QFF points per transaction bonus offer

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Someone from a different forum got this offer. They smashed it with small transactions and in 1 month was able to get 3800 transactions.
They then got a letter and call from NAB after there statement was 74 pages and they withdrew the offer for them but still honoured the 3800 x 100points offer.

They regularly spent a lot of the card as well. This was the plat card.
 
I've got a platinum NAB card and received this offer too (I'd post a link or images, but I don't have enough posts on AFF to do so). Gotta find a way to make lots of small transactions, without the card being blocked for fraudulent activity.

So how'd you go with this? :D:D:mrgreen::mrgreen:
 
Looks like this offer will disappear as obviously it is too generous and too many people have amassed too many points ????
 
Looks like this offer will disappear as obviously it is too generous and too many people have amassed too many points ????

Or they may now just add some suitable T&C....either defining what an everday transaction is, or other possible restrictions such as minimum spend etc, etc
The main mistake NAB have made here is not having T&C to only award 100 points for a "full" purchase, and to prevent "bill-splitting" exacerbated by it's own staff removing for at least one person (and good luck to that inventive soul!!!) the normal flags that would be set off with such repeated 1 cent transactions!



You might remember the Amex Everday Promo, where they mid-promo released some additional clarifying T&C on what constituted an 'everday" transaction and what was a "reasonable" transaction.

Interestingly enough the NAB letter. from what has been posted, used the same word "everday' to refer to spend. But then there was reportedly no further T&C to define, nor reference to other T&C, as to what everday spend was. ie in the Amex Everday promo while T&C in the promo was ridiculously too generous and loose (not that I am complaining ;) ) It did however directly refer to general T&C provisions of the Amex Mileage Reward program, and that allowed an out for Amex to choose to not pay all bonus transactions.

ie at the time there was reportedly one enterprising person that paid a $1000 phone bill in $1 increments. That gave Amex an out due to MR T&C to not award the 1,000,000 bonus points earnt.

Being aware of the MR T&C meant that I was quite diligent in that promo to follow the MR T&Cs rather than than just the initial T&C listed on the Everday promo (which in essence was nil: it actually said no minimum spend, nor limit !!!!). My strategy turned out to be prudent suspended me from the promo, claimed that some of my transactions were suspicious and requested that I justify my spend. This I did in a large submission back to them, and further went on to validate how I had met all T&C of the MR Program as well as the Everday Promo, with a demand then that unless they could actually list any example of inappropriate, or unreasonable spend, that they re-instate me to the promotion and award all points. Their decision actually took a wile, an so for the last month of the promo I kept going despite being suspended with the expectation that they would re-instate me. To their credit they did.

At the time of that promo I drempt up many, many ways to gain transactions. Most I did not enact, as I deemed it would get me suspended. The ones I deemed safe I did work very hard though.
 
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Being aware of the MR T&C meant that I was quite diligent in that promo to follow the MR T&Cs rather than than just the initial T&C listed on the Everday promo (which in essence was nil: it actually said no minimum spend, nor limit !!!!). My strategy turned out to be prudent suspended me from the promo, claimed that some of my transactions were suspicious and requested that I justify my spend. This I did in a large submission back to them, and further went on to validate how I had met all T&C of the MR Program as well as the Everday Promo, with a demand then that unless they could actually list any example of inappropriate, or unreasonable spend, that they re-instate me to the promotion and award all points. Their decision actually took a wile, an so for the last month of the promo I kept going despite being suspended with the expectation that they would re-instate me. To their credit they did.

At the time of that promo I drempt up many, many ways to gain transactions. Most I did not enact, as I deemed it would get me suspended. The ones I deemed safe I did work very hard though.

I wasn't reading AFF much (or paying attention to FF points much!) at the time of this promo, but I'm picked up the gist of it through many ports referencing it since. Out of pure curiosity, what did you have to do to ensure you stuck by the general MR T&Cs? Just ensure you didn't "create" transactions for no reason (not bill split, not decide to give $0.01 once a day to every charity you could find, etc)? And how many points did you actually end up receiving via the promo?
 
I wasn't reading AFF much (or paying attention to FF points much!) at the time of this promo, but I'm picked up the gist of it through many ports referencing it since. Out of pure curiosity, what did you have to do to ensure you stuck by the general MR T&Cs? Just ensure you didn't "create" transactions for no reason (not bill split, not decide to give $0.01 once a day to every charity you could find, etc)? And how many points did you actually end up receiving via the promo?

Well that is a longish story, but in short you had to purchase in "reasonable" ways.

So no standing at the check-out put through can after can of tuna as individual transactions as that would not be reasonable.
But I could for example visit the supermarket on the way into work to buy my morning tea, go at lunchtime fora drink, and grab some dinner on the way home. Just to be sure, I would visit 3 different supermarkets.
Naturally I might want a beer to go with the chicken, and Woolworths bless their souls make you buy the beer separately from the food = two transactions.
David Jones was a regular as their store policy is that you have to pay in each and every department. So just a round of the food department would produce multiple transactions.

Points gained in total was about 2.867 million points. Would have been higher but, I was also in a 3 point per $ promo on the Krisflyer card for part of the time and so transactions larger than about $700 went on that card instead as it earnt more points for me..
 
Well that is a longish story, but in short you had to purchase in "reasonable" ways.

Thanks for the info. Sounds like you were very "smart" about it. Did most people who were "unreasonable" about it end up losing their points?

Points gained in total was about 2.867 million points. Would have been higher but, I was also in a 3 point per $ promo on the Krisflyer card for part of the time and so transactions larger than about $700 went on that card instead as it earnt more points for me..

Wow, that is amazing. Well done. If you earned almost 3 million points while being "reasonable", I'd love to see how many points those doing the tuna-can-by-can (and similar strategies) managed to earn (even if they did end up losing them all).

Sigh, how I wish I'd been actively reading AFF when this offer was around!! :(
 
Did most people who were "unreasonable" about it end up losing their points?
I cannot really answer your question, as I was not assessing anyone's spend. Though I was comparing notes ;)

Note, that "reasonable" was in Amex's opinion, rather than mine. They brought out extra "guidance" part way through, but IMO refrained from precise definitions knowing that if we had a precise definition that many including myself would no doubt be able accelerate their spend.

I knew I was going to get a massive earn, and so was going to at some stag set off some "flags" which would then IMO set my spend up to be audited, which is exactly what happened. Given that I was going to have a massive earnt I also reasoned that Amex would assess my spend harsher than some who may may have earnt much smaller total bonii.

So I actually was setting my "reasonable' limits before Amex brought theirs out. Self-auditing if you will. I did go very hard, but not as hard as I could. My caution I believe was prudent as I am aware of some who were suspended and never gained any points from it, including one mate who I bumped into a year after the promo and at that time learnt that he had been in the promo too, had earnt a million points, but gained nil.
 
Thanks for the info. Sounds like you were very "smart" about it. Did most people who were "unreasonable" about it end up losing their points?



Wow, that is amazing. Well done. If you earned almost 3 million points while being "reasonable", I'd love to see how many points those doing the tuna-can-by-can (and similar strategies) managed to earn (even if they did end up losing them all).

Sigh, how I wish I'd been actively reading AFF when this offer was around!! :(

I think most of us have already aware that AMEX is playing tough on the market now, no more negotiation of annual fees, no more promo of points. All in all should because of previous years ridiculous promotions, and all of their customers now are paying back. So we should not feel any surprise if you are not getting a better deal from them.
 
I think most of us have already aware that AMEX is playing tough on the market now, no more negotiation of annual fees, no more promo of points.

Perversely I note that Amex have just extended their "refer a friend promo" for another 12 months.

I actually have an offer on the table from Amex to keep my business rather than cancel. I haven't quite made up my mind yet on whether to stay or go.

All in all should because of previous years ridiculous promotions, and all of their customers now are paying back. So we should not feel any surprise if you are not getting a better deal from them.

I think it is more the current financial squeeze. Amex Head Office USA is retrenching staff.

Everything goes in cycles. 2013 is so far shaping up as a poor year for the Points Runner.

Will Amex run more Promos? I very much expect so. I am in a minor one now. But the next big may be a while off.
 
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oooooooooooooh nooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. Mrs N who is only half hearted at all of this (but likes the front of the plane nevertheless) just found this offer in a pile of paperwork she was going through. "Is this worth anything?" she asks
OMG. Trouble is it expired Dec 31 and is unlikely to be repeated in current form ;)
Maybe divorce can be headed off because of the 35,000 sign on points she will get for her successful application for a NAB platinum card. And I am in a happy mood because of a nice bonus given to me by the dalmation department store cc.
Possibly I can work up to being happy again
 
just found this offer in a pile of paperwork she was going through. "Is this worth anything?" she asks
OMG. Trouble is it expired Dec 31
WHAT???? OMG!!! Signed papers yet? Get a new wife! ;)

So how long have you had your card for and how much did you or didnt u spend on it. Which card was it?
 
WHAT???? OMG!!! Signed papers yet? Get a new wife! ;)

So how long have you had your card for and how much did you or didnt u spend on it. Which card was it?

it was a gold QFF visa/amex combo. I didn't spend :) $4000 first month, and a few hundred the next month and then the offer came.
I must say I am calming down because she has managed to get both the 18,000 sign on for the gold card and the 35,000 sign on for the platinum. I wasn't sure you could do that :)
 
Someone from a different forum got this offer. They smashed it with small transactions and in 1 month was able to get 3800 transactions.
They then got a letter and call from NAB after there statement was 74 pages and they withdrew the offer for them but still honoured the 3800 x 100points offer.

They regularly spent a lot of the card as well. This was the plat card.

He's on this forum now too ;) - I'm sure he wouldn't mind this cross-post since he just tweeted it.

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Very good that he got that outcome, but I have a bad feeling that Nab might stop this offer now, or more likely change the terms. Good wicket while it lasted.
 
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Or they may now just add some suitable T&C....either defining what an everday transaction is, or other possible restrictions such as minimum spend etc, etc

... And that's exactly what they've done. Just received a letter in the post with the offer on my NAB Qantas Amex "Platinum" card. Here are the conditions:

  • 100 bonus QFF points per purchase (up to 50 purchases)
  • Must make at least 3 everyday purchases with the same card until the offer expires 31 March 2013
  • Each purchase value needs to be a minimum value of $1 or more
  • You need to be a member of QFF to be eligible (of course)

The challenge to earn 5,000 bonus points in a month begins! :rolleyes: Hardly seems worth the trouble.
 
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Look at it this way, if you are like me you are likely to use your card 20-30 times a month just buying bits and pieces, fuel, food etc so it wouldn't be that difficult to find a way to get to 50. The reality is the points are basically free if you would use your card anyway so it's definitely worth it
 
... And that's exactly what they've done. Just received a letter in the post with the offer on my NAB Qantas Amex "Platinum" card. Here are the conditions:

  • 100 bonus QFF points per purchase (up to 50 purchases)
  • Must make at least 3 everyday purchases with the same card until the offer expires 31 March 2013
  • Each purchase value needs to be a minimum value of $1 or more
  • You need to be a member of QFF to be eligible (of course)

The challenge to earn 5,000 bonus points in a month begins! :rolleyes: Hardly seems worth the trouble.

DAMN !!!! I have been deliberately using the AMEX card but not the VISA card hoping I might get that sort of offer, looks like I backed the wrong horse in a 2 horse race ALTHOUGH I have just been given a........... GRATIS...FOR FREE...FOR NOTHING.... 5,000 points because they have changed their T & C's that I can only put 1000,000 dollars AUD, through the card every statement cycle....AS IF..

Obviously an overall change and as they said "because you have only just received your cards etc" Guess I did get the points in another way.. !!!

Anyone else get the FREE extra 5,000 points. ???

does not sound like the NAB at all.....hope it does not impact on their share price
 
One of the best wins around IMO.
Someone from a different forum got this offer. They smashed it with small transactions and in 1 month was able to get 3800 transactions.
They then got a letter and call from NAB after there statement was 74 pages and they withdrew the offer for them but still honoured the 3800 x 100points offer.

They regularly spent a lot of the card as well. This was the plat card.

http://www.australianfrequentflyer....program/close-1-million-qff-points-46623.html
 
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