Melbourne International new security schemozzle

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Anyone have any thoughts on the new security screening set up at Melbourne International terminal (T2)? I've experienced it I think 4 times now and it is an absolute schemozzle.

For those not familiar, they have set up where there are six stations in an arc where people unload their stuff into trays, that feed into the scanner and then the trays (in theory) feed into a tray return scheme after people have removed their stuff. There is a sensor to check if the trays are empty before they drop into the return chute. Everything, including rollaboards and backpacks must go into trays. They also seem to be quite strict (at least when I was there) that they won't let anything share a tray with a laptop. As a result it is not uncommon to use multiple trays (once I used 4 trays - backpack in one, laptop in another, wheelaboard in one, LAGS and a small shopping bag in another).

What happens is that your first tray will fire off, but if you are at the front, then trays from people behind you go through behind your first tray, eventually you might find a space to send you second tray. And wait again for your third tray. By then, you first tray has probably reached the sensor before the return chute, but because your stuff is still in it and you are still waiting for tray number 3 to go, everything starts to build up behind, eventually reaching gridlock. So you then can't put tray no 3 on the line, because it's not moving and you can't go and get tray no 1 because you're waiting to put tray 3 on the line.

This happened to me on my second last trip, and I broke the golden rule - don't suggest something to security - I said "it's probably my tray at the other end waiting to be collected, and therefore holding everything up" - and I was told quite sternly not to too question the system (sure enough my tray was there holding everything up). On my trip on Monday, this was happening on the adjacent conveyor which was basically at gridlock for the whole 10 mins I was waiting, unloading etc. Nothing was moving and they were directing everyone to the adjacent conveyor. Then ours went to gridlock as well, but I was through be then, and moved the offending tray off the conveyor so other trays could keep moving.

Also the system seems to run out of trays really easily, such that myself and the two people in front of me had to wait about 2-3 mins before unloading simply because no trays were coming back.

What a complete stuff up! I've seen similar systems in AKL and LHR work quite well, but they do allow you to put LAGS and other things in the large trays beside the laptop, and seem to have more sensible people managing it.
 
Pretty sure this gets sold as an "enhancement"..... or aka as I like to refer to a newly purchased package where Snr management/the Board was promised the future but the end users receive "a bag of d**ks". I actually said "... we bought a bag of d**ks" in my yearly review last week, my CFO looked surprised.
 
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The new security screening is being rolled out in many airports now. Super sensitive and a lot of bags being flagged for additional inspection. AMS the other day was a 15 minute wait for someone to inspect. Asked 'what are you looking for?' - 'nothing, this was just a general inspection'.

Very annoying.

Made the 'old skool' TSA screening where it's all manual seem very fast.
 
Only 1 staff member dealing with looking into bags.

When through within the last few hours.
 
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The new security screening is being rolled out in many airports now. Super sensitive and a lot of bags being flagged for additional inspection. AMS the other day was a 15 minute wait for someone to inspect. Asked 'what are you looking for?' - 'nothing, this was just a general inspection'.

The time before last at MEL, mine was flagged, and pin pointed a very specific section of the bag. It was some packets of strawberries. 🍓:)
 
Deliberately designed with a myriad of deficiencies to keep a whole bunch of unproductive layabouts in gainful employment - makes any Chinese port appear cutting edge
And all in the name of security because the breaches recently have been ......zero ......that we’ve heard of.
 
If being P1 meant I could somehow skip MEL int security (by enrolling in a trusted traveller scheme or something), I'd willingly pay to requalify each year.

There's the undignified corralling to swab bags and persons. So far I haven't seen the alarm go off and thank goodness - if it does I guess we're all suspects and they need to swab us individually again.

There's the waiting for space and trays so we can put our things in. I thought I'd follow an air crew as they'd have this process down pat but all queues were slow, everywhere.

My bag had the misfortune of being diverted behind the plastic and it wasn't the only one. A bank of uncleared trays was building up and no one was there to deal with them. Eventually someone came along and said it had been diverted because 'an image hadn't been generated.' So I had to wait for them to put the bag through again. Sigh.

Finally I'm given the all clear and can go through immigration.

SYD security is squeezier but I find it much less dehumanising and now that Express Path is back it was pretty quick for me.

 
Also the system seems to run out of trays really easily, such that myself and the two people in front of me had to wait about 2-3 mins before unloading simply because no trays were coming back.
This happened to me just after 2pm yesterday - in the end, the staff member overseeing the what was put into the trays, started carting empty ones across from the adjacent station (not being used).
 
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On my most recent visit, I hadn't bothered to put my small amount of LAGs into a clear plastic bag (they were all inside a small wet bag in my backpack.) The security staff member gave me a brief mini lecture and handed me a plastic bag after my backpack took a while to be retrievable. He said 'I'm only trying to assist you.'

IIRC, AFFer Himeno correctly observed that across Australia, this is mostly or all window dressing. Cruiser Elite above summarises it well. I wouldn't have enjoyed being there at a busier time.
 
If being P1 meant I could somehow skip MEL int security (by enrolling in a trusted traveller scheme or something), I'd willingly pay to requalify each year.

Haven't variants on this theme been proposed either here or overseas?
 
If your bag gets flagged for the most obscure (or incorrect) reason, add 10 to 15 mins onto your wait time....
 
When I went through last time, it wasn't just the ridiculous requirement o use multiple trays - but the wicked angry security guard whose aggressive behaviour was more fitting for an episode of Prisoner - then demanded what I had said about her under my breath!
 
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Sounds exactly like a very recent TBIT/LAX experience. No trays coming back, waiting to put trays in. But at the least the guy supervising that side was sending people through and then sliding their last tray onto the belt for them. It did get a bit bogged down with people getting to a station with a tray waiting to go on, but the new person not touching the tray so not able to start doing their stuff.

The processing of the flagged trays there was also laughable. Guy in front of me have 2 trays flagged, but TSA could only deal with one tray at a time. He kept telling them - that's also my tray. Final once the first bag was cleared, they went to his second tray and started calling out - "who's is this" lol

Meanwhile, my backpack with ipad is in the next tray waiting for this circus act to finish.
 
I went through a little over a week ago and noticed the dumb cough system that they have at LHR and some US airports. It doesn't work in LHR, it won't work at MEL.

I didn't have any issues, because there was no one else there. I had a 6 hour connection (which was later cancelled and had to go back to domestic) and arrived just after the morning peak was done.
I normally end up with 4 'items' (or trays in this system) for at the checkpoints. Laptop bag, laptop, pocket stuff (phone, wallet, mp3 player, etc), backpack.
 
Same at Auckland, but seems to work, although recently, as I carry blank drill bits as gauges and always put them through separately, they were shuffled aside into a long queue of others with one security staff. But usually OK. And yes, your trays don't come out in order with others interspered bewteen.
 
I went through MEL this morn and everything was seamless until my bag got flagged - taken aside and a few cables removed - through scanner again and flagged for second time - staff member there checking was a great scout and totally apologetic for holding me up - amazing how attitude from other side of the fence changes your view of the process
 
Same at Auckland, but seems to work, although recently, as I carry blank drill bits as gauges and always put them through separately, they were shuffled aside into a long queue of others with one security staff. But usually OK. And yes, your trays don't come out in order with others interspered bewteen.
Going through AKL yesterday morning about 10:45am I had a machine to myself.

My Bag got flagged but unlike MEL it's diverted to be checked "airside" behind perspex - i.e. to the end of the conveyor/rollers. The security dude briefly checked the xray image on a monitor and OK'ed the bag.
 
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