LAN 787 Business Class - Trans-Tasman SYD-AKL

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Hi all, I’m over in NZ for a conference (RANZCP national conference if anyone else is going) and thought I’d try out LAN’s trans-Tasman J class in their new 787-8. QF’s hard product seems to struggle here with their narrow bodies vs LAN’s 788, EK’s A380/777s and I’m assuming NZ have wide-bodied as well as narrows on this route. The ticket was, IIRC, $540 one-way which was the same as QF J (on 738s). Unfortunately I couldn’t get a QF flight number of the LAN flight (for the extra SCs and points) unless I wanted to pay $1050 for the fully flex fare.

Here's the video and more comments below.
[video=youtube;VowKZgBPgNQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VowKZgBPgNQ[/video]

Anyway, you start with priority check-in which was great as the line was quite long. It’s staffed by QF check-in staff who were quick and friendly (this is a hint to my thoughts of LAN’s service on the flight…) and directed me towards the express path and the Qantas Business Class lounge (LAN don’t have their own lounge). The QF lounge was good and a pleasant place to spend an hour and a half before boarding.
Boarding was a mess with J passengers welcomed to board with families with young kids and the Catholic church’s (which is quite influential in S. America) attitude towards birth control was quite evident. I was greeted on board and directed to row two.
The seats are quite large and the cabin is quite spacious. The first thing I noticed was how upright the seat back was. I was able to sneak it to a more comfortable angle before takeoff, fortunately. A OJ arrived but other than the initial greeting (not by name, which I’ve had a QF and CX J short-haul), the FAs weren’t all that friendly. This was possible a language issue as they were far more chatty with the Spanish speaking passengers. Shortly after take-off, the breaky arrived which was only average (dry bread and frozen cheese). Fortunately I had a lot in the lounge beforehand so I wasn’t worried. There was only one drink offered throughout the flight and after my food was taken, I had no interaction with the FAs until they rather forcefully adjusted my seat for landing (no smile or request, they just leant over and pressed the landing button on the seat adjustment panel and stared up at the roof)…
One of the Y FAs, in particular was quite unpleasant. She walked through J on two occasions when I was in the isle and she looked straight through me (I usually make eye contact and say hello, as I understand how much people in the service industry are under recognized), and did the same later in the flight.

There’s heaps of space and the angle-flat seat seemed fairly flat to me (more so than the QF Mk1 seat). An unfortunate side-effect of such expansive leg room is that the TV screen is a long way away. There was also a minimal amount of TV/movies (quite a few of the series were quite a few years old, ie. Game of Thrones was Series 4). The seat’s massage feature also doesn’t work very well. While the system works fine in the Skybed mk2, the one here feels like someone has accidentally knee’d you from behind (like when you’re in economy and the guy behind adjusts himself in his chair).

The flight itself was smooth and I still believe that the Dreamliner has one of the best engine notes.
Unfortunately I wasn’t that impressed with every other aspect of LAN and won’t be flying them again.
I’m returning to SYD in EK F so on Wed so I’ll be sure to have a trip report up later this week for that
 
Thanks for the TR, I thought the video was very slick and well produced.
 
Thanks for the TR. I am not a fan of 2-2-2 J class seating, so I'll stick with the EK 380 where I can get a window seat with direct access to the aisle
 
Nice TR. Enjoy your videos, especially the soundtrack

The hard product looks pretty average for a new aircraft:shock:, especially compared to the recent 330 offerings of QF and VA.

Out of interest, having now sampled LA on the 787, how would you compare the J hard product between LA and QF for a SYD-SCL (assuming a Mk2 747)?
 
Nice TR. Enjoy your videos, especially the soundtrack

The hard product looks pretty average for a new aircraft:shock:, especially compared to the recent 330 offerings of QF and VA.

Out of interest, having now sampled LA on the 787, how would you compare the J hard product between LA and QF for a SYD-SCL (assuming a Mk2 747)?
Agreed. It would have been quite good 5 years ago, but given that they only started flying the 788 3 years ago, the interior isn't brilliant. I believe that the 789 is better, though.

Good question. Assuming you do get a refurbished 747 (I believe that older 744s do frequent this route, with JNB and NRT??), and I'll admit I haven't tried the LAN 788 long-haul, I'd say the following. LAN's seats are probably equal with QF's Mk2 although the massage feature is inferior. The middle seat in the 744 (in that 2-3-2 section) would be unfortunate, though. The 788 will be quieter and more humid as I get nose bleeds after 12hrs in a 747 (QF63,64 and 18). QF's IFE is far better as the screen is closer to your face and there's a lot more content. QF also have far better service and I'm assuming the food/drink will be better than what I was served in my brief LAN experience.
I'll probably be flying to SCL in the next few years and I'll be leaning towards QF.
 
Saying you'll never fly with LAN again after a first flight might be a bit premature :). If you fly to Sth America on QF (or AA from the north), you'll be stuck on arrival if you want to keep on oneWorld.

I flew LAN J TPAC and around Sth America on their A340 (TR here) and whilst they aren't the best in the air, they are far from the worst! I also noted the lack of passenger engagement from the FAs on the TPAC, as you, possibly due to language barrier. Surprisingly, on the intra-Sth America flights, I didn't notice the issue so much. Those flights were all in whY, and were quite OK.

LAN is notorious for changing departure times, and for lousy service on the ground, though!
 
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I should have clarified that I won't fly them trans-Tasman in the future - too many other options. You're right, though, that if I fly to S America I'll probably be stuck with them. :)
 
Heh heh, make sure you have a shower in EK F on Wednesday!
 
Excellent TR! I will be on the same flight next year.
What are you using to record it? And how do you shoot the parts where you are boarding - guessing it's in your top pocket or something?
 
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Excellent TR! I will be on the same flight next year.
What are you using to record it? And how do you shoot the parts where you are boarding - guessing it's in your top pocket or something?
Thanks.
I used a Sony A6000 and I just have it around my neck. I hold it up a little as to try and keep it stable without making it look too obvious that I'm recording.
 
Out of interest, having now sampled LA on the 787, how would you compare the J hard product between LA and QF for a SYD-SCL (assuming a Mk2 747)?
Oh, in addition to my above comments comparing the LAN J and Skybed mk2 seats, I think the LAN one were slightly wider too.
 
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Try this thread :D

http://www.australianfrequentflyer.com.au/community/trip-reports-and-trip-photos/my-first-ek-first-suite-70962.html
 
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