Just when you thought you had seen it all in the Qantas lounge...

[Amanad78]

From the QF website:
These guidelines are intended to create an environment everyone can enjoy, so please be mindful of your choice of clothing and footwear when visiting Qantas Clubs and Business Lounges in Adelaide, Brisbane, Canberra, Melbourne, Perth and Sydney.

In keeping with this, we ask you wear smart casual clothing and shoes when entering one of our lounges in Australia or overseas.

https://www.qantas.com/au/en/qantas-experience/at-the-airport/airport-lounges/dress-guidelines.html

If the "bloke" wants to ponce about in his faux fashion outfit that's his business. But why bother with publishing guidelines if you aren't going to ensure "guests" comply?

It only says when entering, not after you've entered

 

[Guvner]

It only says when entering, not after you've entered

You got me there.

 

[RichardMEL]

Not really. I’m advocating a live and let live position. My own cultural values do not come into it. I cannot see how my enjoyment of the Lounge is affected by whether or not another user is wearing shoes. Especially when everyone is going to remove their shoes the moment they board the plane.

what about some seriously bad foot odor?

and then if they put their manky feet up on the chair or table right by you?

I do totally take your point and agree - for me that's not about wearing shoes or not, but about hygeine and manners - but just pointing out how one's enjoyment MAY be affected

 

[sjk]

Can we all agree that Mr Melon is just an attention-seeking prat?

Not having spoken with him, I really couldn’t say.

With others prat-ness is much more evident.

 

[drron]

what about some seriously bad foot odor?

and then if they put their manky feet up on the chair or table right by you?

I do totally take your point and agree - for me that's not about wearing shoes or not, but about hygeine and manners - but just pointing out how one's enjoyment MAY be affected

Unfortunately there are very few people left who know anything about manners. I grew up in a time when manners were taught. Probably they sound stupid to some but society functioned just that little bit better with manners.

 

[JackMiles]

Wow. Enough straw men here to supply Anna Creek Station.

 

[Hvr]

Probably they sound stupid to some but society functioned just that little bit better with manners.

If you knew your place and kow towed to your betters, yes it appeared to do so.

That was a time when priests were perfect and so on.

 

[Tropic]

melons are flavour of the month

At least they are melons and not upside-down pineapples....pays to advertise apparently...

 

[drron]

If you knew your place and kow towed to your betters, yes it appeared to do so.

That was a time when priests were perfect and so on.

Those are not examples of Manners.
Things like keeping left when walking on the footpath,waiting for people to exit the lift,opening doors for a lady and giving up your bus/train seat to the elderly. Those are real manners and have nothing to do with servitude.

 

[mrsterryn]

The mentioned rules seem to be domestic only ? Are they the same for the first class in Sydney or Melbourne ?

 

[Quickstatus]

It's a workplace and a licensed premises

Are there legislated requirements for customers to wear certain types of footwear in a licensed premises?

In case there are sharp objects?

Sensible footwear is the term used by OHS.
While sharp objects are a risk, the greater risk is falls and slipping - based on actual claims data . In which case ban all high heels - but high heels and ladies open toed shoes are not banned.

High Heels are actually not recommended as sensible footwear which have the following characteristics:

In NSW anywhere serving booze people are supposed to wear shoes, broken bottles and glass.

Pretty sure they don't have to wear broken bottles and glass.

Is there are actually legislated requirements for patrons to wear shoes. Can anyone point to relevant legislation

There was a pub/licensed premises which had a dress code on no Nike shoes?. Anyone confirm?

 

[knagelli]

It's a workplace and a licensed premises

probably the workplace rules apply to those working there and not the travellers or ff members.

If the lady was infact wearing PJs and entered the lounge , did the lounge staff express no objection ? As someone has already highlighted , the rules around dress code mention when you enter but not after you are in.

 

[Quickstatus]

Manners

They (not sure who) used to say clothes maketh the man. I suspect it was more a sign of conformity than anything else. Well dressed people can be as or more obnoxious than someone who dresses down - as has been evident in premium classes

 

[Tropic]

lift,opening doors for a lady

However doing this can be fraught with risk in this enlightened age as I discovered recently. Was told in no uncertain terms by a woman (carrying a bag of shopping in each hand) that she was perfectly able to open doors herself and I really should stop imposing my toxic masculinity on people! And the kicker was I wasn't even aware she was approaching the door from the other side due to the reflective coating on the glass.. As my dear mother used to say, it pays to be be polite...

 

[Quickstatus]

Was told in no uncertain terms by a woman

I would say "sorry I thought you were a man"

 

[Tropic]

I would say "sorry I thought you were a man"

I was too stunned to say anything. Just moved aside as she strode past...

 

[Quickstatus]

Just moved aside as she strode past...

I would have stood in front of her and let the door close.

 

[Mr H]

Manners and dress codes are not the same thing at all. Manners are behaviours we choose to exercise in the interests of making other people feel comfortable. Good manners are not always reciprocated, as @Tropic discovered. But the moment manners are legislated or otherwise required, they lose all their meaning. They are no longer about choosing to make other people comfortable, they turn into one group imposing itself on the other.

 

[RooFlyer]

They (not sure who) used to say clothes maketh the man. I suspect it was more a sign of conformity than anything else.

Respect for yourself and those around you. Lacking in some of the examples in this thread

Those who have the “anything goes, that’s ok with me” be warned. You might see me flouncing about in the Flounge in a get up that you’ll never be able to unsee.

 

[Pushka]

However doing this can be fraught with risk in this enlightened age as I discovered recently. Was told in no uncertain terms by a woman (carrying a bag of shopping in each hand) that she was perfectly able to open doors herself and I really should stop imposing my toxic masculinity on people! And the kicker was I wasn't even aware she was approaching the door from the other side due to the reflective coating on the glass.. As my dear mother used to say, it pays to be be polite...

I feel so sorry for men these days. They can't do anything right. I would say thank you for the nice action. I'm sorry she was rude please don't let it stop you doing this for those who appreciate it. I open doors for men if I get there first or they are laden.