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anat0l

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That's appalling to say the least. The crew member should be dismissed immediately and face possible charges.

There are real criminal risks if any passenger on that flight was caught with drugs, or if any were found on board.
 

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Would have thought it made more sense to have the dogs at OOL rather than Sydney.

Flight crews broadcast warnings about disposing things everyday of the year!
 

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That's appalling to say the least. The crew member should be dismissed immediately and face possible charges.

There are real criminal risks if any passenger on that flight was caught with drugs, or if any were found on board.
No, crew member 'reprimanded' only: http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/nation/jetstar-apologises-for-drugs-warning-to-passengers/story-e6frg6nf-1227006807709

Jetstar. Airline of last resort. #

# Except for Tiger who aren't even on the list.
 

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That's appalling to say the least. The crew member should be dismissed immediately and face possible charges.
Playing jury, judge and executioner in one go without looking at the entire facts ;)

If the FA was dismissed, I would like the FWC to test it out, after all, they determined that breaching a workplace porn policy does not mean instant sacking:- Automatic sack for breaching a workplace porn policy not on, says Fair Work Commission | Clayton Utz

The lawyers article says "Even when there are valid reasons for dismissal (as the majority said there were), a dismissal can still be “harsh, unjust or unreasonable” when all the circumstances are considered. The Commission will consider the gravity of the misconduct, proportionality of response, level of tacit acceptance, and factors such as the employee's age, length of service, and service record."
 

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A poorly made joke by the sounds of it, don't think it's worth a dismissal though.
 

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Yeah, the police should have had the dogs all through the Gold Coast airport, they would have been more effective there.
 

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Qantas have been making a hash of things for ages, no reason JQ shouldn't get in on the act!
 

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Qantas pilot friend of mine said they call JQ "No Star".
There's a whole range of names people call Jetstar - No Star, One Star, Death Star, Orange Cancer and so on......

People can call it whatever they want to call it, it doesn't bother me one bit, but I am a fan of them, they have taken me to various parts of this world for not too much money outlay. Keep it up JQ!
 

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I think its ridiculous that the flight attendant did such a thing whether for a joke or not. It is kind of like JQ were OK'ing the use of drugs and to dispose of them so they don't get caught. The flight attendant should be made to go see the victims of drug abuse in hospital and see that it is a serious and deadly matter.
If those people had drugs on them they should have been caught, at the very least they'd get the message not to carry them (maybe a fine or something), or at the very best they could have caught a dealer?
 

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Qantas pilot friend of mine said they call JQ "No Star".
I know a couple of QF pilots that liked to make funny statements about J*.......they couldn't agree quick enough to take work with Jetstar when QF offered assigned leave and leave without pay to allow them to work for other airlines :D

Funny how peoples opinions change when they are faced with changing circumstances.
 
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Playing jury, judge and executioner in one go without looking at the entire facts ;)

If the FA was dismissed, I would like the FWC to test it out, after all, they determined that breaching a workplace porn policy does not mean instant sacking:- Automatic sack for breaching a workplace porn policy not on, says Fair Work Commission | Clayton Utz

The lawyers article says "Even when there are valid reasons for dismissal (as the majority said there were), a dismissal can still be “harsh, unjust or unreasonable” when all the circumstances are considered. The Commission will consider the gravity of the misconduct, proportionality of response, level of tacit acceptance, and factors such as the employee's age, length of service, and service record."
FWC? Ya gotta be kidding, right? Remind me of the split of former Union reps / organisers etc to others on the FWC?

Yeah, thats why we have lawyers. Can't wait for the Revolution ;)
 

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I think its ridiculous that the flight attendant did such a thing whether for a joke or not. It is kind of like JQ were OK'ing the use of drugs and to dispose of them so they don't get caught. The flight attendant should be made to go see the victims of drug abuse in hospital and see that it is a serious and deadly matter.
If those people had drugs on them they should have been caught, at the very least they'd get the message not to carry them (maybe a fine or something), or at the very best they could have caught a dealer?
I don't have a problem with the announcement. I think many people are too precious.

Warning about sniffer dogs at domestic airports is part of the standard announcement, the cabin crew member simply went a little further, perhaps as a joke, perhaps by way of warning.

Do I think the majority of festival goers are criminal drug traffickers? No.

While not condoning the use of drugs, not all episodes of drug taking end in the tragic circumstances a lot of people believe they do. Some people are addicted to drugs, and the same as alcoholics, they need help, not criminal punishment. If you do something wrong under the influence - throw the book, but that's not what we're talking about in the vast majority of cases.

Should all cabin crew be made to go to hospitals and rehab centres to see the effects of the alcohol they serve on board?
 

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I don't have a problem with the announcement. I think many people are too precious.

Warning about sniffer dogs at domestic airports is part of the standard announcement, the cabin crew member simply went a little further, perhaps as a joke, perhaps by way of warning.

Do I think the majority of festival goers are criminal drug traffickers? No.

While not condoning the use of drugs, not all episodes of drug taking end in the tragic circumstances a lot of people believe they do. Some people are addicted to drugs, and the same as alcoholics, they need help, not criminal punishment. If you do something wrong under the influence - throw the book, but that's not what we're talking about in the vast majority of cases.

Should all cabin crew be made to go to hospitals and rehab centres to see the effects of the alcohol they serve on board?
I think the core issue is that the crew member - whether joking or not - acted pro-actively to advise people who may be undertaking an unlawful act to avoid the law or at least detection. IMHO thats not a great thing to do at any time - especially by a flight crew member who is the representative of the airline.

Call me precious, but I'm not one who flashes their lights to warn others of a radar ahead of them (but yes, I do speed on occasion :-| ).
 
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Playing jury, judge and executioner in one go without looking at the entire facts ;)

If the FA was dismissed, I would like the FWC to test it out, after all, they determined that breaching a workplace porn policy does not mean instant sacking:- Automatic sack for breaching a workplace porn policy not on, says Fair Work Commission | Clayton Utz

The lawyers article says "Even when there are valid reasons for dismissal (as the majority said there were), a dismissal can still be “harsh, unjust or unreasonable” when all the circumstances are considered. The Commission will consider the gravity of the misconduct, proportionality of response, level of tacit acceptance, and factors such as the employee's age, length of service, and service record."
So be it. It is perhaps lucky that the authorities did not intend to investigate this kind of incident any further. At worst, Jetstar could have been investigated as a possible link to the transport of illegal drugs, or in assisting such an act. That employee who made the errant comment could be personally investigated for possible criminal charges and as a result also be held for bringing their employer into disrepute (if that hasn't happened already). That, along with what I would assume would be a long standing company policy of no tolerance to drugs (especially on the job), should be tantamount to either suspension without pay or dismissal.

Let's not also forget that aviation jokes almost do not exist; all said verbatim is fair game in having an action taken against anyone on the grounds of aviation security.

Those factors in and of itself separate this potential case from the one you have alluded to in the article referring to Australia Post (and the three who had slipped up as such in that role were IMO lucky to be reinstated). However as it stands, it will not get that far. The crew member was counselled and it seems it will stay at that. I assume anyone who did have drugs who did not dispose of it was picked up by the dogs on the other end.

I don't have a problem with the announcement. I think many people are too precious.

Warning about sniffer dogs at domestic airports is part of the standard announcement, the cabin crew member simply went a little further, perhaps as a joke, perhaps by way of warning.
Considering your rather cavalier attitude here seems to be at ends with your discriminate and incessant "positions" of safety made in another thread (which incidently this incident makes some association with aviation safety), frankly my mind boggles and I am absolutely disgusted at you.
 

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Considering your rather cavalier attitude here seems to be at ends with your discriminate and incessant "positions" of safety made in another thread (which incidently this incident makes some association with aviation safety), frankly my mind boggles and I am absolutely disgusted at you.
the two positions are not contradictory

the drugs were already on the plane and had posed no danger to the flight.

if my next door neighbour drinks a bottle of wine on a Friday night or pops an 'e' it really isn't any of my business provided they don't get behind the wheel of a car.

that my plane might be flying over a war zone concerns me. That the person next to me might be carrying a joint really doesn't.
 
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the two positions are not contradictory

the drugs were already on the plane and had posed no danger to the flight.

if my next door neighbour drinks a bottle of wine on a Friday night or pops an 'e' it really isn't any of my business provided they don't get behind the wheel of a car.

that my plane might be flying over a war zone concerns me. That the person next to me might be carrying a joint really doesn't.
Precisely.

Doesn't anyone remember been 21 ?

And a joint in someone's bag doesn't affect the good order and security of the plane, unlike some dickhead in J getting hammered on sauv blanc on a flight to Perth or flying over the Ukraine/Iran/Iraq/Sudan/Georgia at 35,000 feet.
 
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