is the MH/VS RTW fare as stupid as it seems?

[k3nnis]

Thanks Dave.

I actually have a copy of the below rules and i actually had Flight centre, bextflights etc read it and they still wouldn't accept the route i wanted to do. My route is: SYD-KUL-NRT(MH) - NRT-LHR-SFO(VS) Make my own way to LAX-TPE-KUL-SYD(MH)

They said i cant do KUL-NRT as its not in one continous direction! But i spoke to MH and they are happy to do this for me! I booked it

Dave, just wanting your opinion if you don't mind, if your intepretation of the rules do you think my route is valid?

Cheers,
Kenn.

The $7999 fare is a standard MH fare. Rules from EF are

UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED . NOTE - A- ALL TRAVEL MUST BE ON THE SERVICES OF MH/VS. 
 
EXCEPTIONS - VS CODESHARE SERVICES - FLIGHTS VS 2000-5999/ VS 7000-9999 CAN NOT BE 
USED. 
B- PASSENGERS MAY ENPLANE AND DEPLANE AT THE FOLLOWING POINTS VIA THE SERVICES OF
MH INDICATED BELOW SUBJECT TO THE STOPOVER CONDITIONS AND ROUTING CONDITIONS. 
POINTS OF ENPLANEMENT AND DEPLANEMENT FOR CXR 
MH. 1- NORTH AMERICA- LAX/NYC 
2- EUROPE- LON/MAN/AMS/FRA/PAR/IST/ROM/VIE/ZRH 
3- MIDDLE EAST- DXB/BEY/CAI 
4- ASIA- BKI/BKK/CEB/cough/HKG/KHH/KUL/KCH/MNL/NGO/ 
OSA/PEN/SEL/SIN/TPE/TYO/SHA/DEL/MAA/BLR/ BOM/HYD 
5- S.W. PACIFIC- ADL/BNE/MEL/PER. /I/-SYD-APPLICABLE TO SIDE TRIPS AS PER PARAGRAPH
 /A/ /2/ /B/. /II/ AKL- APPLICABLE TO SIDE TRIPS AS PER PARAGRAPH /A/ /2/ /B/. 
6- AFRICA- JNB/CPT C- FARES GOVERNED BY THIS RULE ONLY APPLY TO THE SERVICES OF MH. 
PASSENGERS MAY BE ENPLANED AT POINTS NAMED IN THE ROUTING CHART PARAGRAPH 
/L/ /1/ /B/ HOWEVER TRAVEL AT THESE FARES MAY ONLY ORIGINATE AT THE POINTS NAMED IN 
PARAGRAPH /A/ /2/ /A/. 
 
2- TRAVEL MUST BE IN A CONTINUOUS GLOBAL DIRECTION AROUND-THE-WORLD- EITHER 
EASTBOUND OR WESTBOUND. NORTHBOUND AND/OR SOUTHBOUND DEVIATIONS WILL BE 
AT THE CARRIERS DISCRETION. THE DIRECTION OF TRAVEL CANNOT BE REVERSED - 
BACKTRACKING WILL NOT BE PERMITTED AND NO CITY IS TO BE TRANSITTED MORE THAN 
ONCE UNLESS AN ADDITIONAL SIDE TRIP ASSESSED. 
 
EXCEPTION 1- FOR TRAVEL TO/FROM- BKK/PEN/SIN VIA- KUL ONLY ONE SIDE TRIP WILL BE 
PERMITTED WITH NOT MORE THAN ONE STOPOVER PERMITTED AT KUL. 
EXCEPTION 2- FOR TRAVEL ORIGINATING/TERMINATING BKI/KCH/PEN/ SIN/AUSTRALIA- KUL 
MAY BE TRANSITTED TWICE BUT ONLY ONE STOPOVER PERMITTED AT KUL. 
 
3- TRAVEL MUST BE ON SECTORS OPERATED BY MH AS INDICATED IN /L/ /1/. 
ALL TRAVEL IS SUBJECT TO CARRIERS CURRENT OPERATED SCHEDULES AND AUTHORISED 
ROUTE AUTHORITY. PASSENGERS MAY NOT BE BOARDED OR DEPLANED BETWEEN POINTS 
WHERE CARRIERS HAVE NO TRAFFIC RIGHTS. 
 
4- TRAVEL MUST COMMENCE AND TERMINATE IN THE SAME COUNTRY EXCEPT WHERE THE 
APPLICABLE ROUTING DOES NOT PERMIT A COMPLETE ROUND-THE-WORLD JOURNEY DUE 
TO CURRENT OPERATED SCHEDULES OR CURRENT ROUTE AUTHORITY. 
 
5- TRAVEL MAY BE VIA CARRIERS OTHER THAN THOSE PARTICIPATIONG IN THIS RULE OR VIA 
SURFACE TRANSPORTATION - HOWEVER SUCH TRAVEL IS NOT INCLUDED IN THE THROUGH FARE 
AND IS SOLELY AT THE PASSENGERS EXPENSE. THE POINT AT WHICH TRAVEL RESUMES ON THE 
THROUGH FARE - AFTER THE EXCLUDED TRAVEL- MUST BE A POINT WHICH CONTINUES IN THE SAME 
GLOBAL DIRECTION TRAVEL ORIGINATED.

 

[JohnK]

They said i cant do KUL-NRT as its not in one continous direction! But i spoke to MH and they are happy to do this for me! I booked it

Looking at point 2 in the fare rules it does mention that travel must be continuous RTW either eastbound or westbound. Northbound and/or southbound deviations will be at the carriers discretion.

I think that if MH has said KUL-NRT is OK and the routing appears to be valid according to point 2 in the fare rules then really no reason why Flight Centre or Bestflights did not want to ticket it.

 

[k3nnis]

Hi,

Thanks for your reply John

Yeah i found it strange they don't want to ticket for me to NRT. Anyways its not my loss as MH have agreed to book it for me.

I'm trying to maximise mileage while also want to visit cities worth visiting

I haven't been to Tokyo before so i thought this may be a good route to try. Also i want to try a couple of long haul VS upper class....

I've been a long time J class traveller on MH....

I wonder if i can maximise my routing more? Thinking SYD-HKG-LHR-SFO//LAX-KUL-SYD but i dont think i really want to go HKG as ive been there before...and nothing much stands out for me

Maybe i can try CPT but mileage but not sure which routing i can take....

Cheers,
Kenn.

Looking at point 2 in the fare rules it does mention that travel must be continuous RTW either eastbound or westbound. Northbound and/or southbound deviations will be at the carriers discretion.

I think that if MH has said KUL-NRT is OK and the routing appears to be valid according to point 2 in the fare rules then really no reason why Flight Centre or Bestflights did not want to ticket it.

 

[k3nnis]

Hi Guys,

Just a heads up, i have booked SYD-KUL-NRT-LHR-SFO//LAX-TPE-KUL-SYD

They allowed a free sidetrip from KUL-BKK-KUL but i think it will be too hectic

As i will be doing SFO-JFK-LAX using DL.

The other catch is i can only stop in KUL once.

Cheers.
K.