Is it ever cheaper to book a QF flight with QF FF compared to asiamiles?

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  1. foggy

    foggy Active Member

    May 30, 2009
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    Hi, I've got around 180k points with QF FF and I have 600k points banked with westpac altitude card.
    Just looking at what can be booked with 180k on QF FF and I am really disappointed. Looking at booking J class SYD - NRT one way and it is only 45K with asia miles flying on QF21. The same flight costs 465k with QF FF.

    Am I using my qantas points wrongly? is there a time where the points required goes on sale?

    I am seriously considering using my QF FF points on QF Shop items.. samsonite cosmolite suitcase 81cm is 62,500 qf ff points which equates to $413 if using the same QF points and purchasing myer store gift cards.

    Any insight?
     

  2. mannej

    mannej Senior Member

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    465k sounds like an Any Seat Award, not a Classic award.
     
  3. Mumfreqflyer

    Mumfreqflyer Member

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    Following this!

    I am trying to decide between the black earth and black altitude for this exact reason....

    Would love to know which has cheaper redemptions :)
     
  4. foggy

    foggy Active Member

    May 30, 2009
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    thank you for pointing that out. Now I have found the correct cost being 72k. still costing more than asiamiles but more comparable.
     
  5. MEL_Traveller

    MEL_Traveller Enthusiast

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    you are buying peace of mind with QFFF's high redemptions that you have a 'fairer' program for all.
     
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  6. Mumfreqflyer

    Mumfreqflyer Member

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    I just used asia miles redemption chart to cost an award up...

    Happy to be corrected but this is what I get:

    Per - hkg - lax business class award
    Asia miles - 175,000 points return
    Qantas - 139,000 each way so total 278,000 return
    Alaska air miles - 120,000 miles return (~$250 taxes)

    Apparently similar taxes.
     
  7. Mwenenzi

    Mwenenzi Established Member

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    You need to include fuel surcharges. QF & AM/CX(?) have surcharges
    Real taxes paid to government are exactly the same for all carriers on same route for the same class
    Never confuse real taxes and carrier imposed fees (~profit )

    Example
    Checked 14 Mar 2014 economy award flight cost in QF points & co-pay fees/surcharges/taxes
    QF award flight 15 May 2014 SYD-LAX QF107 48,000 points & AUD$462

    QF award flight 14 May 2014 LAX-SYD QF12 48,000 points & USD$384
    AA award flight 14 May 2014 LAX-SYD QF12 37,500 miles & USD$27
     
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