Is eating more important than sleeping ?

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simoninsingapore

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acampbel said:
Is democracy more important than anarchy?


I'm not sure of any airline that serves dinner at 2am, but if they do and you are in cattle class then you are obliged to bring your seat upright. You have the freedom to choose whether or not you eat, you do not have the right to make that decision for the person behind you.

The crew will dim the cabin lights when it is time to sleep and therefore reasonable to recline ... if you don't like that then travel First Class or get a hotel room.



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Well the shortly-after-midnight-flights out of Changi to Syd/Melb serve dinner at 2am. And I'm not particularly interested in receiving visual cues from the crew telling me when I should be sleeping ...or not. The whole idea behind meal service anyway is not so much because the airlines are frightened people will pass out all over the place from low blood sugar levels, just that they want to keep people out of the aisles and busy doing something.
And since the people seem to be against me on this one, I'm afraid my strategies are staying secret, haha
 

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It can be difficult to eat when the seat in front is inclined, particularly on TG.

Last I checked TG has 34" pitch in Y as opposed to 31" on most other carriers. Shouldn't it be, if anything, better on them?

Just think of it this way. On a 10 hour flight one can assume that perhaps only 1-2 hours will be dedicated to meal services. Thus, for those of you who prefer to sleep, you have a window of 80% of the flight to use. However, for those who prefer to eat and be upright, they have only 20% of the flight to do so.
 
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Yep those late flights out of SIN are terrible though, just not long enough to get enough sleep for the day ahead most of the time, but last week i managed fine so maybe i am just getting better at it :)
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andersen.joyce said:
... I find the arm rest very narrow - won't take two at a time! Is it first in best dressed? Must say i am not what you would say a walking example of anorexia.
A FTer type of etiquette indicates PAX in middle seats gets the shared armrests, those on the aisle have theirs.

However, IME, this is not known or acknowledged by many Oz PAX, not do I necessarily agree with this.

FWIW, back in the Mid 90's for me, this was moot. Back then I was laterally challenged - enough that areas of my waist would occupy part of the armrests the moment I was seated. :oops: :shock: (Fortunately, this is no longer the case :D )
 

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serfty said:
A FTer type of etiquette indicates PAX in middle seats gets the shared armrests, those on the aisle have theirs.

However, IME, this is not known or acknowledged by many Oz PAX, not do I necessarily agree with this.

FWIW, back in the Mid 90's for me, this was moot. Back then I was laterally challenged - enough that areas of my waist would occupy part of the armrests the moment I was seated. :oops: :shock: (Fortunately, this is no longer the case :D )

Never realised you were so big! Mind you, there was a time when it was a much tighter squeeze for me in the seats as well.
 

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My philosophy is that karma exists in the world.

If you choose to recline, then you'd have to expect that someone in front of you will choose to recline, and it won't always be at a time convenient to you.

My policy is that I don't recline, unless I know I won't bother anyone behind me.

As for arm rests - I choose the window seat, in part, so that I have something to lean up against, thereby, reducing the impact of the person next to me.
 

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I know the reclining habits of passengers in WHY gets a lot of comments but for the life of me I will never understand the need to recline for a passenger sitting in bulkhead or exit row. In my opinion it is totally rude and really sets the wheels in motion for a domino effect. And yes I am aware they have every right to recline and show no consideration for the passengers behind them....
 

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andersen.joyce said:
Just getting off topic what is the general rule re the armrest situation. I am talking cattle class I guess. I find the arm rest very narrow - won't take two at a time! Is it first in best dressed? Must say i am not what you would say a walking example of anorexia.
I always have a window seat and occasionally an aisle. So I always lean towards the window and give the majority of the arm rest to the middle passenger. Although sometimes I lean my elbow against the side of the armrest.
 

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I'm not keen on reclining either and I do take advantage of free meals on planes. I am actually more comfortable upright with a neck pillow. The level of reclining in Y isn't enough to get me to sleep without benefit of Valium.

Actually I would rather be on one of those half empty flights and grab a row of empty seats!
 

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vt01 said:
I always have a window seat and occasionally an aisle. So I always lean towards the window and give the majority of the arm rest to the middle passenger. Although sometimes I lean my elbow against the side of the armrest.

As a frequent whY traveller, I tend to get the aisle or window. When someone is unfortunate enough to be stuck in the middle I will also allow them to have the arm rest. I am happy for them to have both arm rests, and as others have said, I will lean the opposite way (as much so that I stay comfortable as well).

I quietly think to myself that this kind of courtesy will hopefully be reflected if I am ever stuck in the middle.

As for reclining, anything less than 2-3 hours during the day, the recliners should be locked so that they don't work... maybe a new design feature. During the day on such short flights people are either eating or working. If I try using my laptop with a recliner in front of me, my hands contort into positions that I didn't think were possible. Even reading/writing using the table becomes an almost impossible mission.

Long flights, I go with the majority here, and that is after meals, lights down, that is the cue that if you want to recline... go right ahead...

 

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The OP has managed to bring in the 2 big chestnuts, reclining and mobile phones (another threrad) on planes. Soon there will be the who is better QF or AA thread coming to a FF board near you.:p
 

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Reggie said:
The OP has managed to bring in the 2 big chestnuts, reclining and mobile phones (another threrad) on planes. Soon there will be the who is better QF or AA thread coming to a FF board near you.:p

Nah - it will Boeing/Airbus next ;)
 

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simongr said:
Nah - it will Boeing/Airbus next ;)
Or worse - Crown Lager vs Hahn Premium :shock: .

All reads like troll fodder to me.
 

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Sleep luv those flat beds why can't we have them on all the red eyes!!! just for the xtra 1 hr snooze!!
 

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I'm surprised by the comments about TG, with 34" pitch. With the new 777's that fly MEL-BKK, the seat doesn't recline very far either, it (seemed to) simultaneously recline and move forward at the same time. Which reminds me doesn't the new CX product have non reclining seats altogether (seat base comes forward to achieve the same effect as recline)? This would solve the OP's problem.
 

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The OP doesnt have a problem - they just recline and let other people have the problem :)
 
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