impressions of LAX First lounge, DFW Admirals club

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JohnK said:
... There is nothing special about the SYD F lounge ... The food is ordinary and this includes both breakfast and the all day menu.
I would completely differ here; I have had the pleasure of breakfast 3 times and afternoon/evening dining 9 or 10 times in the Flounges of MEL/SYD.

While I can take or leave breakfast (there's only so much one can do there), I have yet to have a bad feed; in fact most of the "all-day" options I have tried have been of an extremely high standard. I am quite looking forward to my next planned evening visit for a 7:30pm flight to AKL. :cool:
 
NM said:
Think Captain Kirk ;) .

I just seem to recall 12 beige seats in a 2-2-2 formation in front of J and they were given head sets. I can't really recall which flight it was... might have been LAX-DFW... on my way to PIT ...
 
simongr said:
I just seem to recall 12 beige seats in a 2-2-2 formation in front of J and they were given head sets. I can't really recall which flight it was... might have been LAX-DFW... on my way to PIT ...
The 762 F config is 2-1-2 where the single centre seat is often referred to as the Captain Kirk seat.
 
serfty said:
While I can take or leave breakfast (there's only so much one can do there), I have yet to have a bad feed; in fact most of the "all-day" options I have tried have been of an extremely high standard. I am quite looking forward to my next planned evening visit for a 7:30pm flight to AKL. :cool:
I don't think I ever said that the meals in the F lounge are bad. Are the meals better than sandwiches or snacks? Yes. Would I route flights through SYD just for the First Class lounge experience? No, for the same reason I do not route flights through HKG. If I want a world class meal I would visit a world class restaurant.

I have now been to the F Lounge 5 times for breakfast and 4 times for the all day dining and have tried the eggs, minute steak, burger etc. Whilst it is nice to be able to order meals prepared on the spot the meals themselves are small size and not much difference to what I can get anywhere else. The meals are on par with the bistro at Bardwell Valley Golf Club in fact if I had a choice I would go for Angelo's Bistro anytime. If anyone is in doubt you are welcome to sample Angelo's offerings at the Golf Club.
 
simongr said:
My understanding of the fleet is that you have about 6 options of J/F product on board - per this link

777 Flagship Suites - a proper lie flat suite style seat
777 F Coffins - lie flat but in a box basically
763 NGBC - Lie flat new business class
763 OBC - Old business class - like a QF Dreamtime seat but in leather with a massive amount of legroom
757 F - A bit like the Qf millenium seat but in leather - generally beige
MD80 F - For me very similar to the 757 F but in dark blue/black

Ah, thanks for that. Must have been the 763 NGBC seat I had DFW-LAX. Wasn't completely flat though...still a slight angle (with a limited amount of space for your feet). Certainly not a bad seat for a relatively short domestic trip though!

Must have travelled in the 763 OBC a fair bit too...I remember previous DFW-LAX flights that had a huge amount of leg room...seat didn't seem all that different to the MD80 F seat though (albeit bigger).

Cheers,
- Febs.
 
JohnK said:
If anyone is in doubt you are welcome to sample Angelo's offerings at the Golf Club.
I would, but every time we've tried to play Bardwell Valley (usually a spur-of-the-moment thing) we can't get a tee time. :(

FWIW, I don't think anyone was suggesting the Flounge menu is up there with Tetsuya's and FortyOne...but for an airport lounge providing free meals, it's extremely good in my (and obviously other AFFers') opinion. :)

Cheers,
- Febs.
 
Febs said:
FWIW, I don't think anyone was suggesting the Flounge menu is up there with Tetsuya's and FortyOne...but for an airport lounge providing free meals, it's extremely good in my (and obviously other AFFers') opinion. :)

Cheers,
- Febs.

Absolutely agree. Especially in comparison to the Admiral's Clubs. Far superior to the LAX and ORD AA F lounges. Had nice meals several times and as a reward for my patronage I like it.
 
Febs said:
Must have travelled in the 763 OBC a fair bit too...I remember previous DFW-LAX flights that had a huge amount of leg room...seat didn't seem all that different to the MD80 F seat though (albeit bigger).

Cheers,
- Febs.

I think the OBC is like sitting in one of those fat leather rounded sofas whereas the 757 is more like a squared off neat sofa...
 
Febs said:
I would, but every time we've tried to play Bardwell Valley (usually a spur-of-the-moment thing) we can't get a tee time. :(
The golf course is nothing special but assists greatly in developing a very good short game. Competition times are Tuesday, Thursday, Saturday and Sunday mornings. You should be able to get a game outside of these times quite easily.

There was a special offer recently of $50 membership, no joining fee, for 4 months which would have allowed you to play any time you wanted. There are 2 tees in use on Saturday mornings so if you want to play early ring up the day before and you will know if you can get a game. Otherwise contact me and I can get you more information. I play at 6:55am every Saturday.

Febs said:
FWIW, I don't think anyone was suggesting the Flounge menu is up there with Tetsuya's and FortyOne...but for an airport lounge providing free meals, it's extremely good in my (and obviously other AFFers') opinion. :)
I think you will find in the various threads some people make it sound like it is the best eggs they have ever had in their life or the best minute steak ever. It is quite sad if this is really the case.
 
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Febs said:
... Must have travelled in the 763 OBC a fair bit too...I remember previous DFW-LAX flights that had a huge amount of leg room...seat didn't seem all that different to the MD80 F seat though (albeit bigger). ...
IIRC, the old 763 seats were somewhat larger and had a few more knobs and levers for seat adjustment than those of the MD80s and 757's.
 
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JohnK said:
... I do not route flights through HKG. If I want a world class meal I would visit a world class restaurant.

I have now been to the F Lounge 5 times for breakfast and 4 times for the all day dining and have tried the eggs, minute steak, burger etc. Whilst it is nice to be able to order meals prepared on the spot the meals themselves are small size and not much difference to what I can get anywhere else. The meals are on par with the bistro at Bardwell Valley Golf Club in fact if I had a choice I would go for Angelo's Bistro anytime. If anyone is in doubt you are welcome to sample Angelo's offerings at the Golf Club.
I think you have missed the point. I was not referring to travelling simply to get a 'free' meal. The 'free' meal in the First lounge helps make it more comfortable/easier when I am travelling.

I would route via MEL/SYD International to use the lounges, especially in the afternoons or evening.

Most of my QF travel in the last year has been in WHY - These First Class facilities make it far easier to do so.

A good example (which I mentioned) is my upcoming MEL-AKL flight departing at 7:30pm. I can employ the lounges resources for a nice meal and drinks. Thus nourished I can take/leave the WHY offering I will be later offered on the 3½ hour flight.

OT: I consider upgrading from a pre-allocated exit row aisle seat on a flight less then 7 hours or so a waste of points, especially if the flight is not overnight. (Many of my fares aren't upgradeable in any case.) For me this make the availability of such facilities even more important.
 
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If QF WP then you get access to the F lounge for any flights where there is an F lounge.

From everyone's experiences I've read here it seems this is true (and it is my understanding too). However, on their Flagship Lounge page aa.com says "We also invite our oneworld™, First Class or Emerald international customers to use the Flagship Lounge when traveling on eligible oneworld flights." On their lounge access page, though, it simply says OWEs do have access to the Flagship Lounge with no mention of any other prerequisite.

So, is it correct that QF WP get Flagship Lounge access, period, with no other *, ^ etc?
 
From everyone's experiences I've read here it seems this is true (and it is my understanding too). However, on their Flagship Lounge page aa.com says "We also invite our oneworld™, First Class or Emerald international customers to use the Flagship Lounge when traveling on eligible oneworld flights." On their lounge access page, though, it simply says OWEs do have access to the Flagship Lounge with no mention of any other prerequisite.

So, is it correct that QF WP get Flagship Lounge access, period, with no other *, ^ etc?

You are entitled to use the Flagship Lounge or the Admirals Club as long as you are departing on a flight both marketed by and operated by a OneWorld carrier

You could not use if if, for example, you were departing on a Delta flight

Dave
 
Personally I think there's a lot more than just the view that makes the SYD Flounge special. Sit-down table service (rather than help yourself), an excellent menu (rather than sandwiches and carrot sticks), a day spa (not just a bathroom), impeccable service, a library (not just a magazine rack) and extra touches ("gimmicks" if you like) such as the flight notification boards and greenery. All adds up to an excellent Flounge experience IMO..

My thoughts exactly. I could have a comfortable day there just curled up in the library, stocked with some excellent books.

The meals I've had there - breakfast both times - have been superb. Food cooked to order and served with aplomb. My last omelette came with the cherry tomatoes they serve in heaven. Plastic knives aside.

I'll have a couple of hours there on Saturday (travelling alone, happy to guest a fellow traveller) around 9:30 on. Looking forward to it immensely.

LAX Flounge in T4 is fine, but then again my experience is limited to the QF108 late evening stopover, where most of my time was taken up with a shower and hassling with the internet.

BA's Flounges are nothing special IMHO, though I've never had the experience of the Concorde Room(s) so I reserve judgement there. Cathay Pacific's two flagship lounges in Hong Kong, both F and general, are first rank so far as lounges go, and I cherish my time there. However, I believe Sydney has the edge. In design as well as service, and that's saying a lot.

Lounges vary in quality and style around the world, but in most cases I'd rather be in the lounge than out in the general terminal eating chicken salad sandwiches on plastic chairs.

And yes, for a great dining experience, a really good restaurant will beat any lounge. But that's not the point. It's like comparing your own bed to a lie-flat airline seat and complaining about the light and noise you get in an aircraft cabin.

We look for comfort and convenience, value and efficiency in our travels. For those travelling economy, little things count for a lot in making the experience more pleasant (or less unpleasant). For those at the top end, QF009's hunt for the perfect champagne exemplifies the sort of things these travellers look for - the details that mark out a great airline from a good one.

Hence the discussion on seats. When you park your bum on something for hours on end with little opportunity for relief, limitations on space or padding become very important indeed. It's not like sprawling on your couch at home watching your widescreen. And given that business/first travel can cost as much as first rate examples of both couch and widescreen, why shouldn't we discuss value and comfort, style and substance endlessly in these forums?
 
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