hints to make y class more palatable?

[Taezar]

Your in a better spot than most with Lounge access prior on QF/UA and greater chance of an upgrade.

Decide what type of person you are - tall and sit in a seat - take the window.. getting up to use the bathroom regularly - take the aisle.
A good blowup headrest in economy always helps

OMG
I was scanning this thread quickly and I thought Moa999 wrote

... a good blowjob in economy always helps

This is prolly true but not what Moa999 was recommending.

 

[Stuser]

OMG
I was scanning this thread quickly and I thought Moa999 wrote

This is prolly true but not what Moa999 was recommending.

good idea. which airlines offer them in Y?

 

[harvyk]

good idea. which airlines offer them in Y?

If you're attractive - all of them,
If you're not - there is always the option of giving alcohol to others and hoping...

 

[Stuser]

If you're attractive - all of them,
If you're not - there is always the option of giving alcohol to others and hoping...

guess I'm just not attractive enough...... darn

 

[harvyk]

guess I'm just not attractive enough...... darn

Don't feel too bad, I'm still waiting for my invite to the crew quarters... Hasn't happened yet, but I still hold out hope...

 

[Hvr]

OMG
I was scanning this thread quickly and I thought Moa999 wrote

Originally Posted by moa999

... a good blowjob in economy always helps

This is prolly true but not what Moa999 was recommending.

I've heard the Y sucks but didn't think they meant it literally. :mrgreen:

 

[Justchecking]

Saying no can be uncomfortable, but if you've paid your fare, and preselected your seat, surely it's up to you not to move if it doesn't work in your favour...? ie if you've planned ahead but somebody else hasn't and then wants your seat, then maybe, just maybe, if you say no, they'll plan better next time! :idea:I've moved on shorter trips, but if on a longer trip, well "no means no"....Any other views on this?

I agree that no-one should be asked to move just because someone else doesn't like their seat and wants yours. Didn't book their tickets together or otherwise couldn't be coughd checking in early to get a good seat. It's just rude and I hate the habit many people have of throwing a tanty every time something doesn't go their way. Why reward someone for bad behavior, and an inability to act like an adult? On the other hand however, all airline T&C's pretty much state seat selection is not guaranteed and if you cause enough trouble over it, then yes they can actually offload you for not following crew direction. I would move for a legitimate reason, but IMHO....I want to sit next to my boyfriend\husband\aisle\window or I'll have a hissy fit....are not legitimate reasons.Isn't your preference equally as important as theirs?

 

[ozbeachbabe]

I agree that no-one should be asked to move just because someone else doesn't like their seat and wants yours. Didn't book their tickets together or otherwise couldn't be coughd checking in early to get a good seat. It's just rude and I hate the habit many people have of throwing a tanty every time something doesn't go their way. Why reward someone for bad behavior, and an inability to act like an adult? On the other hand however, all airline T&C's pretty much state seat selection is not guaranteed and if you cause enough trouble over it, then yes they can actually offload you for not following crew direction. I would move for a legitimate reason, but IMHO....I want to sit next to my boyfriend\husband\aisle\window or I'll have a hissy fit....are not legitimate reasons.Isn't your preference equally as important as theirs?

Some parents book their child on a redemption fare & themselves on a paid ticket or for some other reason both paid tickets are booked by different parties hence the separate pnrs.

As you cannot book a solo pax as a 'child' online if they are the only one in the booking, to alleviate this people book them as an adult. Sometimes the child & parent have different surnames so it's not always apparent to the airline that there's a parent & child not seated together.

What they should do is call the airline & have the bookings linked & also tell them that little Johnny is a child & not an adult so the airline can add a child edit to the booking. This will also give you a better selection of seats to choose from as child edits carry a higher passenger value.

Pax should either pre-allocate their seats beforehand where possible to at least try to OLCI. Getting to the airport 'early' at T-40 is not enough time to get a decent seat particularly if most of the flight has checked in by now & there's bugger all seats left together.

 

[Justchecking]

Some parents book their child on a redemption fare & themselves on a paid ticket or for some other reason both paid tickets are booked by different parties hence the separate pnrs.

Just to be clear, that situation would come under legitimate reason. In any case I would be happy not to be sitting next little Johnny anyway. I was referring more to the fully fledged adults who upon boarding discover their seat is not the best or particularly to their liking and insist someone else be lumped into the seat they so dislike.

 

[ozbeachbabe]

Just to be clear, that situation would come under legitimate reason. In any case I would be happy not to be sitting next little Johnny anyway. I was referring more to the fully fledged adults who upon boarding discover their seat is not the best or particularly to their liking and insist someone else be lumped into the seat they so dislike.

I do find it amazing though that if someone has a middle seat or another seat not to their liking why on earth they think someone else would give up their better seat for their coughpy one. I think it's very much a case of "it's all about me" & not having consideration for others.

Same as when people are running late, they expect the airline to wait for them & arrive at the airport full of excuses as to why it wasn't their fault etc etc. Yet these same people would be the first to complain if they were onboard & the flight departed late waiting for someone else.

LAH I would definitely board asap to avoid someone else stealing your seat & making you out to be the big bad ogre for claiming what is rightfully your seat. Why not practice what you would say in a polite but firm manner to the CSM or FA should you ever be asked to move again eg "thanks for the offer but I'm quite happy to stay where I am thankyou". I'm sure others here would also have examples of what they might have said or would say in that situation.

 

[Stuser]

Some parents book their child on a redemption fare & themselves on a paid ticket or for some other reason both paid tickets are booked by different parties hence the separate pnrs.

As you cannot book a solo pax as a 'child' online if they are the only one in the booking, to alleviate this people book them as an adult. Sometimes the child & parent have different surnames so it's not always apparent to the airline that there's a parent & child not seated together.

What they should do is call the airline & have the bookings linked & also tell them that little Johnny is a child & not an adult so the airline can add a child edit to the booking. This will also give you a better selection of seats to choose from as child edits carry a higher passenger value.

Pax should either pre-allocate their seats beforehand where possible to at least try to OLCI. Getting to the airport 'early' at T-40 is not enough time to get a decent seat particularly if most of the flight has checked in by now & there's bugger all seats left together.

Agree. I do this every now and then. Book tickets separately for me and my son (my partner, whoever really) how they're paid for is irrelevant, then once bookings are done (on web, always), I always IMMEDIATELY call QF and get the two bookings linked together. Note I've only ever done this on QF.

(My son and I have different surnames....)

I have NEVER once had a problem with this and always olci and there we both (or more) are, all happily seated together at the back of the aeroplane (not for long though, thanks seat selection...).

The last thing I want to do is ask someone else if I can have their seat!

(And yes I sometimes take my 6-8 year old in business class. He seems to like the seeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeats. )

 

[Ansettaddict123]

(And yes I sometimes take my 6-8 year old in business class. He seems to like the seeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeats. )

In the market for another son perchance? (MEEEEEE!)

 

[Skiwi66]

My only suggestion re exit row seats is to select window if possible as these rows are usually near the toilets and the luxury of stretching your legs out is soon forgotten when the 157th person steps on your feet whilst waiting for the toilet. The exception to this is the over wing (I think) exits on a 747 which have a huge bulge in the door severely limiting the leg space that you would otherwise have. Go aisle in this instance.

 

[ozmille]

Have got seat 28C (exit row aisle) on BA 747 booked for my first long haul whY for a long time... As it is only to BKK it should be fine.

 

[justin23]

OP if you want to save the company money, try Y+. IMO its not worth the extra money they charge, but if the company doesn't want to pay for J then Y+ at least useually means no reclining into your knees.

I'm a QF PS and I usually can get an exit row at time of booking. In fact my annoyance is i pay for it and then someone asks to move to the middle exit row seat later on.... Otherwise I'd have some shoulder room too

 

[timster]

3) Ear plugs for when you aren't listening to IFE, noise reducing headphones for when you are (I use in ear type as I find them more comfortable to wear than big battered noise cancelling headphones).

Cheap noise cancelling headphones(~$30) are the best flight accessory I ever bought. You don't have to pay $200. Just make sure you get the single and double plug options - otherwise they won't work on Qantas's double plug (you can buy these separately from jaycar). And don't forget to charge the batteries ! Keep them on for sleeping - they drown out that horrible roar much better than ear plugs. Just switch the IFE system to one of the god-awful 'new age' 'soothing' audio channels - the only thing that cough is good for is putting you to sleep. I always carry my own sleeping goggles (some airlines don't give them out, and most are thin) and neck cushion. And white socks for exit rows so people don't stand on my feet at night. The head cushion goes under my bum. The only time I've been moved against my will was when I got an upgrade from an exit row seat in economy to a window in premium economy on BA ... where the premium is not so flash (certainly nothing like Qantas). So I actually said I'd rather keep my exit row. They said no. And the 'hidden' seat on BA 747's .... that's now listed as an exit row seat - so the secret is out. But my #1 tip ... always stopover for a day (or a week) on the way to Europe. When flying to/from the US, transit through Auckland just to get off and have a shower (ideally in the QC). Adds an hour or so to the time in the air, but much more civil.

 

[amcintyre]

I understand your situation. I do between 40-80 international flight sectors a year, and for the past 10 years, pretty much all economy (this is changing now thank goodness). Apart from all the great tips posted above (good NC headphones, seat guru etc) one of my secret weapons was suggested by a number of international rugby referees who travel all over.

SKINS recovery leggings are awesome. They are like a pair of long stockings, but not too tight, breathable and cover only part of the foot. Easily worn under pants - they work an absolute charm. I wear them during a long flight (night or day), and then (importantly) that night to bed. Jet lag is eliminated and on night flights I seem to sleep much better. Not sure how they work - but try them.

Note - everyone laughs when I tell them - but I'm the one powering through the next day.

 

[Rebekkap]

Bring your own blanket, the light polypropylene variety. It gets cold in exit rows and you're not guaranteed an extra blanket in economy. You can also use it to pad the seat should it not be comfortable enough.

I'd second that - or at least I would have until I found a tiny sleeping bag, when compressed it's smaller than a poly blanket folds up and it unzips completely so you can use it as a doona. I bought it specifically for long-haul economy, and it's toasty!

I'd also warn against the "tipple" some are encouraging you to have - sleeping pills are a much better bet. Alcohol dehydrates you - and planes are dehydrating enough without it.

 

[HKGNZL]

I am in a similar position that I fly economy more often than business long haul. Being Plantinum on QF does not stop them changing my pre booked seat often at the last minute. I am flying tomorrow PER to BNE with wife and 2 yr old. Booked pram row seat (front economy) weeks ago. At check in on line, found me and wife shifted to mid economy and the infant on her own many row away!!!

Any idea how to avoid that happening again?

CX offers One World plantinum exit row economy without additional charge but first come first serve.

 

[Plane Jane]

Go to Seat Guru (I cant post the web address but easy to find) after you know your aircraft type. You can get a good sense of where is good if 80K is not available by checking out the seat layout on your aircraft.
Love all the suggestions and good luck my friend. Might be time for a new job where they have more money to spend on sending you J class!
PJ