Has anyone ever seen a UFO?

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Perhaps I should have asked the question to a Pilot. Under the cloak of anonymity that this thread provides, I'm sure there'd be some stories come forth.....
 
Cool, ok I'm going to grab a cold beer and some Doritos, then immerse myself in the above links......
 
JohnK said:
Like the bing bang? You need a lot of faith to believe that theory because there's no proof at all. None. It's just a guess that has a few followers.
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Bing Bang? As in Bing Bang Boom-tish? :rolleyes: For once I agree with you - you DO need a lot of faith to believe in the Bing Bang Theory.

JohnK said:
Yes we are alone in this 14 billion year old universe.
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Well, that settles it then. Everyone in the field can down tools. But just before I do, what is your science and philosophical education again? :rolleyes:
 
Thanks for the mention of Min Min lights - my dad told me a story years ago about his UFO encounter. I always just assumed he was drunk or stoned, but that sounds exactly like what he saw! I've sent him a wiki link to see if he agrees ... mystery solved!
 
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clipped_wings said:
Perhaps I should have asked the question to a Pilot. Under the cloak of anonymity that this thread provides, I'm sure there'd be some stories come forth.....
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I doubt it. Half of the guys never look outside, and the other half that do can probably tell you the name of the satellite they're watching. I've never seen anything that doesn't have a simple explanation...that doesn't involve aliens. I expect it was all summed up by Douglas Adams.

The Drake equation, mentioned earlier, is simply a way of condensing the vastness of the universe into something that we can perhaps understand. There's a pretty good explanation here: Drake Equation: Estimating the Odds of Finding E.T.

In essence though, if you plug some quite reasonable numbers into the equation, you end up with only one civilisation in the Milky Way. That doesn't mean that others haven't existed, but the big filter that most people never consider is that of time. As a technological civilisation we've only been around for a couple of hundred years. How long will we last? If you assume civilisations last a million years (which is probably unlikely), you still end up with the problem that your million years is unlikely to coincide with another's million.

Next we get to the Fermi paradox, which (from Wikipedia) is this:
  • There are billions of stars in the galaxy that are similar to the Sun and many of these stars are billions of years older than the solar system
  • With high probability, some of these stars have Earth-like planets, and if the Earth is typical, some may have developed intelligent life.
  • Some of these civilisations may have developed interstellar travel, a step the Earth is investigating now.
  • Even at the slow pace of currently envisioned interstellar travel, the Milky Way galaxy could be completely traversed in a few million years.
  • So where is everyone?
Plus, we have the concept of Von Neuman machines...and the question of why they haven't come knocking on the door.

There are aliens painted on the toilet walls at Wycliffe Well....but I suspect they might not be real.
 
Are we alone? So many questions with very few answers and any potential answers are theories.

I'll keep an open mind on the possibility that we are not alone.
 
Hmm.. On balance, I buy one of little green men stories..
There is just so much inexplicable stuff that slots nicely into the lgm story.
The rocks around Cusco sold me, I cannot envisage any motivation or process with those structures that doesn't involve lgm.
Science tries very hard to rationalise it all and I respect both the disciplines and the achievements of the scientific mind.
We really know so little.. a bit of belief makes the pain of ignorance a little more bearable
 
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