General Discussion/Q&A on Coronavirus (COVID-19)

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Nearly 20,000 Afghans have fled Iran for Afghanistan after being refused treatment for Coronavirus there. There are 3 million Afghans in Iran, largely Refugees.

Khaama Press - Hospitals in Iran refuse to treat Afghans amid coronavirus pandemic

 

[TheRealTMA]

I know its an unkind thing to say, but perhaps there could/should be a virus to eliminate stoooooopid.....

No, drinking water doesn't kill coronavirus

A rumour about Covid-19 has been spreading – that drinking water regularly and keeping your mouth moist can protect you. Here BBC Future examines the evidence.

www.bbc.com

Better than this.

Snorting cocaine won't protect you against coronavirus, officials warn

The French health ministry debunked the myths after bizarre conspiracy theories were circulating online.

metro.co.uk

 

[desafinado74]

And i want to add that Australia would do well to learn from Singapore, Taiwan and South Korea. These countries carried out very extensive testings and did a great job in tracing down infected people. Apart from South Korea who locked down two provinces, schools,offices, malls , restaurants etc were still operating in Singapore and Taiwan.

 

[Must...Fly!]

And i want to add that Australia would do well to learn from Singapore, Taiwan and South Korea. These countries carried out very extensive testings and did a great job in tracing down infected people. Apart from South Korea who locked down two provinces, schools,offices, malls , restaurants etc were still operating in Singapore and Taiwan.

Our bureaucracy is hopeless. I find it extremely hard to believe we could effectively undertake contact tracing like Singapore and Taiwan have done.

 

[drron]

To be fair, medical purchasing was asleep when the rest of the world were buying up masks.
Yes it is the frontline who suffer… but better management and a touch of foresight would have mitigated the problem.

But where I worked in the last 2 weeks of feb patients and visitors were taking boxes of masks.They were getting quite short then.

 

[amaroo]

But where I worked in the last 2 weeks of feb patients and visitors were taking boxes of masks.They were getting quite short then.

Lock them up.... and I mean the PPE.

 

[p--and--t]

Here's a sobering view of how long social distancing might be until Jan/Feb next year...

Social distancing must be in place for a year, scientists warn

So-far 144 people have died in the UK after testing positive for Covid-19.

metro.co.uk

 

[Pushka]

Five more positives from Ruby Princess. Two in NT and three in Tas. Princess just keeps on giving.

 

[Tropic]

Our bureaucracy is hopeless. I find it extremely hard to believe we could effectively undertake contact tracing like Singapore and Taiwan have done.

SG has done a great job I think, and I have been watching their efforts with interest since late January. Of course, population density, socio-political and geographical and other factors mean Australia would never be able to do the same intensity of contact tracing and social isolation they have achieved nor achieve the same level of community compliance.

 

[lovetravellingoz]

And i want to add that Australia would do well to learn from Singapore, Taiwan and South Korea. These countries carried out very extensive testings and did a great job in tracing down infected people. Apart from South Korea who locked down two provinces, schools,offices, malls , restaurants etc were still operating in Singapore and Taiwan.

Australia has actually done a lot of testing, especially in comparison to other countries (they wanted to do more but had a shortage of kits and reagents to make more, but more are being sourced),

See

How many tests for COVID-19 are being performed around the world?

COVID-19 testing - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

and contact tracing has been one of the main tools rolled out. The Vic Goverment just quadrupled their staff doing this recently.

Why do believe that we have had low testing and have not been contact tracing?


Now Singapore due their small size and good IT has also been able to use these tools to help police isolation etc.

Australia has also closely looked at the strategies in the countries you mentioned as well.

 

[drron]

Lock them up.... and I mean the PPE.

But when you have infectious patients or those that have impaired immune systems that need to be isolated you need the masks close by when they need to be examined.And with increasing numbers that is even more relevant.

 

[amaroo]

But when you have infectious patients or those that have impaired immune systems that need to be isolated you need the masks close by when they need to be examined.And with increasing numbers that is even more relevant.

Like all things, we need to adapt. There is always a solution .... maybe hospitals need people with other skills to assist during this crisis.

 

[zenyattamondatta]

LOL @ all the eyeball econometricians sleuthing out exponential growth (or logarithmic growth as was comically suggested above).

If people actually emerge from this with a better understanding of how to interpret statistics, so much the better. But in the meantime we're going to get so many more nonsense reactions to nonsense interpretations of nonsense data.

 

[amaroo]

More bad news for Spain.

Confirmed cases jumped 25%

Deaths 324 and counting for the day.

 

[Tropic]

LOL @ all the eyeball econometricians

Yes lots of nonsense and self proclaimed experts around at the moment. They must be very frustrated that everyone on AFF just dont recognise how bloody smart they think they are...

 

[lovetravellingoz]

Coronavirus: Italy's hardest-hit city wants you to see how COVID-19 is affecting its hospitals

The sheer numbers of people succumbing to the coronavirus is overwhelming every hospital in northern Italy.

news.sky.com

 

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Here's a sobering view of how long social distancing might be until Jan/Feb next year...

Social distancing must be in place for a year, scientists warn

So-far 144 people have died in the UK after testing positive for Covid-19.

metro.co.uk

Queue for Waitrose (supermarket) this morning.

 

[amaroo]

Coronavirus: Italy's hardest-hit city wants you to see how COVID-19 is affecting its hospitals

The sheer numbers of people succumbing to the coronavirus is overwhelming every hospital in northern Italy.

news.sky.com

Bergamo is a real beauty. Awful stuff.

 

[Flashback]

People are just the worst. Mrs FB was out at the shops earlier and the guy in front of her at the checkout had parked illegally on the street outside, ran out as he saw the parking officer writing a ticket and told him he was scum and he wished he got Coronavirus. Sheesh.

 

[amaroo]

Oil consumption falling off a cliff, 10% decline or 10 million barrels a day.

At the same time there is an epic price war / pumping occurring. I suppose if you need the cash, you better pump harder and longer.

Should do wonders for global emissions and those long term targets.

We're Barreling Toward An Epic Glut Of Oil

The supply of oil has surged as the coronavirus pandemic has destroyed demand. Prices have plummeted and analysts are starting to ask if the world will have enough space to store all the extra oil.

www.npr.org