Gave Up An Invite To the A380 Onboard J Lounge.

[kempvet]

This mentality of being altruistic towards an arms length company is pretty foreign to me. Were you motivated by:
- the airline's sake,
- the paid/points J pax,
- the principle that one should only get what one pays for
- to not get the FA in trouble or
- something else?

Personally, the only reason I've ever turned down offers like this has been be to avoid getting in trouble somebody kind enough to offer to help me.

guess that the answer is the paid/points J pax,
but as others have already written, the J lounge is hardly occupied through the night, so I guess that I should have just trusted the judgement of the meet and greet OWE FA, she wouldn't have offered the J lounge if it impacted on J pax

 

[jeremyk]

What I don't understand is how anyone can actually get work done in that lounge area? It's too dark and there are no tables.

No, but it is really good to read Rolling Stone magazine for a few hours and drink copious amounts of Chivas! I was the only one in the lounge from Singapore to Melbourne (my first op-up so there was no way I wasting time sleeping...lol) I was in this private little oasis

 

[NoName]

Are F pax allowed to wander upstairs to the lounge if they choose?

 

[samh004]

If its something offered to you for being a top-tier FF then by all means you should accept it..

Otherwise you shouldn't check-in at F check-in whilst flying Y if going by that mindset..

I say any privilege or gift offered for being a valued customer (WP) I would happily accept, enjoy the privileges!

Not to nitpick, well not too much at least, but that benefit is offered as part of the membership, while the one we are discussing isn't. It might be offered, but isn't a certainty, so I think that makes it slightly different to using F check-in counters.

That said, still doing it!

Are F pax allowed to wander upstairs to the lounge if they choose?

Having only travelled once on an A380 in Y, I don't know the answer but would assume they can. I do wonder what the selection of drinks is like though, and if F pax have to forfeit the slightly better offering at the bar if it's referred to as a J lounge?

 

[ozmille]

Are F pax allowed to wander upstairs to the lounge if they choose?

You definitely are, you can ask your FA to bring you the nicer drink from downstairs, we sat their whilst our beds were made downstairs.

 

[Groundhog]

Are F pax allowed to wander upstairs to the lounge if they choose?

Yes they can - but i'm not sure if any of them would want to. The F seat is more comfortable than the couch upstairs and as has been mentioned the drinks selection isn't as good.
I was amazed when i flew J on the A380 that the PAX around me weren't even aware there was a J lounge at the front of the plane and given the attendance in the several times i visited the lounge the same could be said for most of the cabin. It is a little dark (could do with a window) and if you are travelling by yourself (as i was) it's a little boring (should have got stuck into the Chivas ). But if travelling with a group might be a good place to break away

 

[cmon0005]

Not to nitpick, well not too much at least, but that benefit is offered as part of the membership, while the one we are discussing isn't. It might be offered, but isn't a certainty, so I think that makes it slightly different to using F check-in counters.

That said, still doing it!

Yeah I realise that, I guess I was just trying to show where do you draw the line in the sand for accepting benefits advertised or not. (eg. when is accepting a J wine ok, but offered to sit in an empty lounge is not).
If a staff member offers you something it would generally mean that they're allowed to and by all means you should accept! :mrgreen:

 

[markis10]

Are F pax allowed to wander upstairs to the lounge if they choose?

Considering a couple of PE pax shared the lounge with a certain transport minister who was travelling in F on QF1 I would say yes ( he was the one in the PJs ).

 

[MEL_Traveller]

it's an interesting issue and I'm not quite sure why it bugs me (but it does a little... can't put my finger in why exactly..l but ill try and work it out...)... but qantas seems to go above and beyond when it comes to 'up classing' passengers in lower classes. I've flown qantas business class twice and was slightly surprised to see about a quarter of the upper deck being given payot amenity kits just before landing. on my flight the other day a crew member walked through the cabin with several payot kits saying 'I'm just going to take these to hand out'.

given the under stocking of items like champagne, I just wonder how much of this stuff is going to the back of the plane at the expense of providing services and amenities elsewhere?

maybe they do the same on other airlines? I have no idea. but at least I don't KNOW that they're doing that. they don't walk through the sq cabin with a handful of amenity kits to give out to business class.

while it really shouldn't be any of my business, it does become so when we run out of things. maybe other airlines provide a better and more consistent product that they don't need to give out sweeteners?

 

[codash1099]

My personal opinion is that the J lounge is over-rated. I am surprised that it didn't disappear in the refit.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

My personal opinion is that the J lounge is over-rated. I am surprised that it didn't disappear in the refit.

not a lot they can do with that space it seems. and I think I read somewhere it serves as a room if there is a medical emergency?

 

[Chesty]

Just on that, why isn't there an onboard F lounge?

 

[MEL_Traveller]

Just on that, why isn't there an onboard F lounge?

i guess there's no demand.

is it only emirates that has one? (even then I have read pax tend to head down the back where there's a greater gene pool and more likelihood of something interesting happening)

 

[Stoopidsteve]

Considering a couple of PE pax shared the lounge with a certain transport minister who was travelling in F on QF1 I would say yes ( he was the one in the PJs ).

I hazard to suggest that flight was a bit special, when all sorts of strange and unusual things happened...

 

[Awesom Andy]

I would think that an F seat would be more comfortable than the seat in the lounge.

For me personally, if I'm settled and working in my Y seat, moving up to the lounge (or anywhere) could be a little bit counter-productive. Best if I'm just left alone.

 

[MH_fan]

The F seat is definitely more comfortable than the lounge. Personally, I don't mind the lounge. Last time I used it, I wasn't tired enough to sleep on my way to LAX and I felt like hanging out there just for something different (especially when the cabin was already darkened so other passengers could sleep). I discovered that they had that Mrs T's bloody mary mix, which is one of my favourite drnks ever, and I basically drank them out of it whilst chatting with various FAs that weren't busy. My OH also found it a great place to relax.

 

[Flying mermaid]

Makes good sense to me, guess that the meet and greet OWE FA's are skilled in what they decide to offer and have probably already taken account of any impact on higher level passengers, so in future if they offer something, likely I will accept

I think your scruples do you credit - they belong to a forgotten age where courtesy and consideration of other people were more evident. Glad to see you now have official blessing from Red Roo and can enjoy these little comforts in the future with a clear conscience.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

Glad to see you now have official blessing from Red Roo...

and never mind how it affects the amenity and enjoyment of other passengers? (nothing against the passenger)

 

[kempvet]

and never mind how it affects the amenity and enjoyment of other passengers? (nothing against the passenger)

I think that most posters on the discussion have come to the conclusion that the meet and greet FA has already taken into account that there would be no effect on the amenity and enjoyment of other passengers, if there was, the offer would not be made, for example, if F pax objected to a glass of wine leaving the F cabin to someone in Y that has done 200K miles a year with QF/AA/BA then that is OK with me, I wouldn't lose any sleep over it, but apparently, they don't care at the moment seeing the odd glass of wine leaving the F cabin.

 

[Global Tripper]

IMHO I would stick to my F seat any hour of any day rather than join the upstairs J "lounge". I literally only sat on the bench once and I found it uncomfortble and that whole area just a little tight, space wise. i suppose this is to be expected. As regards the odd glass of wine leaving the F cabin. I am not sure anyone would notice and even if they did I suspect that the occupants of that cabin would simply say good luck to the receiptient!