Flight Availability/Loadings & Upgrade Probability Help Desk

Sprucegoose · Sep 2, 2010

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For Questions about Aircraft Configuration and Seat Availability, please use this thread:

Understanding [Fare Buckets] Expert Flyer

I'd appreciate some help understanding the information EF provides. For example, F6 A6 J9 C9 D9 I0 B9 H9 K9 M9 R9 L9 V9 S0 N0 Q0 O0 X0 E0 What letters do I look at to try to work out how many seats are still available in economy? What letters do I look at to try to work out how many...

www.australianfrequentflyer.com.au

See this thread for hints on how to read loadings:

Interpreting and Understanding Expert Flyer

If looking for, say Qantas points upgrades, look for A class for First, mid to high D or any I class for Business and any R for Premium Economy.

Look for the most expensive category of the cabin YOU are currently booked in as being sold out e.g. J0 to first, W0 to Business & Y0 to PE for increased op-up chances. Also, look for availability on the discount premium buckets (A, P, I, D, U, T & Z inventories).

Conversely, look for high numbers in the discount economy buckets (N, O, Q, E & X inventories) for reduced op-up chances.

Seat maps can be a VERY rough guide but note that just because a seat is not showing as allocated does not mean that seat hasn't been sold. Not everyone pre-selects seats.

>>>> END OF ADMIN UPDATE <<<<

Original thread title: update on QF93 on 12 sept

Appreciate it if someone could check EP for loadings.

thnxs

SPRUCE

cove · Jun 30, 2012

Re: Points upgrade query

I can see 2 seats from Sydney thru Fiji to LAX in J for 96,000 points each as a WP using Classic.

Reddust · Jun 30, 2012

Re: Points upgrade query

Thanks for the help guys.

Only thing to do now is wait and see I guess.

It is the second leg of nine that we will be flying, have upgrades pending on each leg and more than enough points to cover all of them so with a bit of luck should jag at least one... you would think.

serfty · Jul 6, 2012

Re: Points upgrade query

Reddust said:
Hi,

Find the insight on here really interesting. First question...

I am flying BNE-LAX on the 1st August, what is the chance of a points upgrade for myself and my wife (both silver)?

Guessing slim to none but thoughts would be good...

Cheers

Results from ExpertFlyer.com

Code:

Flight Availability Search
Departing BNE on 01/08/12 12:00 AM for LAX
Flying QF  


                                                                     Frequency
Flight        Stops  Depart             Arrive             Aircraft  Reliability     
0 Connections
QF 15         0      BNE                LAX                744       Unavailable     
                     01/08/12 10:35 AM  01/08/12 6:40 AM             92% / 12m

Available Classes
J9 C9 D9 I2 W9 R9 T9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q5 G0 E0
...

I would say your chances are reasonable for Business with D9/I2 and if not then Premium Economy is quite likely.

For more on how to get this information yourself for free and how to interpret it see post #1 of this thread.

Ansett · Jul 10, 2012

Re: Points upgrade query

Hi Everyone

Flying on QF 127 on Friday 13th and wondered if anyone could answer the following please

We have upgrade request from Y to J and wonder on the probability for both of us.

Also any idea which of the 380's will be operating this service.

Thanking you in advance

serfty · Jul 10, 2012

Re: Points upgrade query

Ansett said:
Hi Everyone

Flying on QF 127 on Friday 13th and wondered if anyone could answer the following please

We have upgrade request from Y to J and wonder on the probability for both of us. ...

Wide open in First & Business, plenty of PE as well - good chance.

Results from ExpertFlyer.com

Code:

Flight Availability Search
Departing SYD on 13/07/12 12:00 AM for HKG
Flying QF  


                                                                     Frequency
Flight        Stops  Depart             Arrive             Aircraft  Reliability     
0 Connections
QF 127        0      SYD                HKG                388       Unavailable     E0 
                     13/07/12 10:40 AM  13/07/12 6:00 PM             68% / 35m

Available Classes
F9 A9 J9 C9 D9 I9 W9 R9 T0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G0 X2
...

Ansett · Jul 10, 2012

Re: Points upgrade query

Thanks Serfty

Much appreciated and fingers crossed

kreuky · Jul 12, 2012

Re: Points upgrade query

Hi, can anyone with EF please check flight loads for QF1 SIN-LHR leg only on 21st July?
Based on flightstats J/9 C/9 D/9 I/9 U/0 W/3 R/2 T/1 Z/0 Y/9 B/9 H/9 K/9 M/9 L/9 V/0 S/9 N/9 Q/9 O/9 G/0 X/0 E/0 seems to be plenty in business class?
So this looks good for an upgrade? I have yet to request it though. QFF Gold. 56k points to upgrade to business or chance a free upgrade?

serfty · Jul 12, 2012

Re: Points upgrade query

E/F would show similar to Flightstats.

O9 indicate little chance of 'free' upgrades.

The PE cabin is quite full (W3) and I9 is indicative of very light Business loads.

SO a good chance - just hope those SG in PE haven't requested many upgrades.

kreuky · Jul 12, 2012

Re: Points upgrade query

Thanks. My economy booking is in L class. Does that make any difference?

serfty · Jul 12, 2012

Re: Points upgrade query

kreuky said:
Thanks. My economy booking is in L class. Does that make any difference?

As a WP have received more upgrade when in L class than not (best was two of us on a LONEx SYD-JFK 192K QFF points but!).

The Business class loadings are about as good as they could be for points upgrades; PE not so.

pjohn · Jul 20, 2012

Re: Points upgrade query

Hi all. Could anyone provide load stats for QF63 SYD-JNB (26/07) returning QF64 JNB-SYD (13/08)

Currently booked in Y+ looking for J.

Many thanks in advance

KVS · Jul 21, 2012

Re: Points upgrade query

pjohn said:
Hi all. Could anyone provide load stats for QF63 SYD-JNB (26/07) returning QF64 JNB-SYD (13/08)

Currently booked in Y+ looking for J.

There you go:

[KVS Availability Tool 7.0.2/Diamond - Sabre: Availability/FS/US]

Code:

SYD  Sydney Kingsford Smith NS AU [YSSY]
JNB  Johannesburg OR Tambo Intl ZA [FAJS]
THU  26 Jul 2012

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
QF         63      SYD   10:00     JNB   16:15     744      F9 A9 P0 J9 C9 D7 I3 U0 W9 R9 T9 Z0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O2 G0 X9 E0
SA/QF      7701    SYD   10:00     JNB   16:15     744      F0 P0 A0 C9 J7 Z4 D2 Y9 B9 M9 K9 H9 S9 Q9 T9 V9 L6 W6 G4

[KVS Availability Tool 7.0.2/Diamond - Sabre: Availability/FS/US]

Code:

JNB  Johannesburg OR Tambo Intl ZA [FAJS]
SYD  Sydney Kingsford Smith NS AU [YSSY]
MON  13 Aug 2012

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
QF         64      JNB   18:15     SYD   14:10     744      F9 A9 P2 J9 C9 D9 I6 U0 W9 R9 T9 Z0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G0 X9 E0
SA/QF      7700    JNB   18:15     SYD   14:10     744      F0 P0 A0 C9 J9 Z7 D3 Y9 B9 M9 K9 H9 S9 Q9 T9 V9 L9 W9 G9

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Alanslegal · Jul 22, 2012

Re: Points upgrade query

pjohn said:
Hi all. Could anyone provide load stats for QF63 SYD-JNB (26/07) returning QF64 JNB-SYD (13/08)

Currently booked in Y+ looking for J.

Many thanks in advance

Thanks to KVS quick research, I think your chances of going to J (on points upgrade) look pretty good on the outbound leg (with J9 C9 D7 and I3 numbers).

pjohn · Jul 23, 2012

Re: Points upgrade query

Many thanks KVS, appreciate your quick response

KVS said:

There you go:

[KVS Availability Tool 7.0.2/Diamond - Sabre: Availability/FS/US]

Code:

SYD  Sydney Kingsford Smith NS AU [YSSY]
JNB  Johannesburg OR Tambo Intl ZA [FAJS]
THU  26 Jul 2012

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
QF         63      SYD   10:00     JNB   16:15     744      F9 A9 P0 J9 C9 D7 I3 U0 W9 R9 T9 Z0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O2 G0 X9 E0
SA/QF      7701    SYD   10:00     JNB   16:15     744      F0 P0 A0 C9 J7 Z4 D2 Y9 B9 M9 K9 H9 S9 Q9 T9 V9 L6 W6 G4

[KVS Availability Tool 7.0.2/Diamond - Sabre: Availability/FS/US]

Code:

JNB  Johannesburg OR Tambo Intl ZA [FAJS]
SYD  Sydney Kingsford Smith NS AU [YSSY]
MON  13 Aug 2012

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
QF         64      JNB   18:15     SYD   14:10     744      F9 A9 P2 J9 C9 D9 I6 U0 W9 R9 T9 Z0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G0 X9 E0
SA/QF      7700    JNB   18:15     SYD   14:10     744      F0 P0 A0 C9 J9 Z7 D3 Y9 B9 M9 K9 H9 S9 Q9 T9 V9 L9 W9 G9

medhead · Jul 25, 2012

Currently looking at QF9 1 October. I've put in an upgrade request for 6 Y to PE (yes slim chance). Expert flyer is currently showing:

QF 9 MEL 15:30 → SIN 21:25
F9 A9 J9 C9 D9 I0 W2 R0 T0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G0 X9 E0

So 2 PE seats for sale. (?) But Qantas will sell me 6 PE seats.

Does this indicate a good chance of upgrades happening? SWMBO is concerned about us getting an upgrade and being spread all around the cabin. I told her there's only 2 seats for sale, don't worry we'll never get it. But I'm slightly concerned now that I see QF willing to sell 6 seats.

(my klacker pulsates at the thought of the lecture I'll receive if we do end up spread around the cabin in PE

)

Sent from the Throne

pjohn · Jul 25, 2012

Re: Points upgrade query

pjohn said:
Hi all. Could anyone provide load stats for QF63 SYD-JNB (26/07) returning QF64 JNB-SYD (13/08)

Currently booked in Y+ looking for J.

Many thanks in advance

Upgrade confirmed. Boo-yah!

Peabody · Jul 26, 2012

Re: update on QF93 on 12 sept

I am trying to work out my chances for an upgrade from Y to Y+ on QF10 departing LHR on the 27th of July 2012.

I seem to come up with:
LHR-SIN on the 27th - F2 A2 J9 C9 D9 I0 W3 R3 T1 Y0 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 G0 E (Decent chance?)
SIN-MEL on the 28th - F1 A1 J2 C2 D2 I2 W1 R0 T0 Y1 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 G0 E (No chance?)

Is that correct?

serfty · Jul 26, 2012

Re: update on QF93 on 12 sept

How are you booked?

By individual segment LHR-xSIN-MEL or through flight LHR-MEL?

Results from ExpertFlyer.com

Code:

Flight Availability Search
Departing LHR on 27/07/12 12:00 AM for MEL
Flying QF  


                                                                     Frequency
Flight        Stops  Depart             Arrive             Aircraft  Reliability     
0 Connections
QF 10         1      LHR                MEL                388       Unavailable    
                     27/07/12 10:30 PM  29/07/12 5:45 AM             NA / NA

Available Classes

F1 A1 J2 C2 D2 I0 U0 W1 R1 T0 Y0 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 G0 E0

Peabody · Jul 26, 2012

Re: update on QF93 on 12 sept

Booked the whole way through, Depart LHR on the 27th.

EDIT: Just got the text message "Your points upgrade to business on QF0010 from MEL to LHR departing 27JUL at 22:30 has been confirmed. Enjoy your flight!"

bjbrian · Aug 26, 2012

QF8 DFW BNE today - loading in PE and J?

Hi,

Can anyone gef for me information on the loadings in PE and J on QF8 DFW BNE (Departing tonight 25th Aug 9.55 Dallas Time).

(Yes I know its the 26th already in oz).

I am in PE, and I really was hoping to be upgrated to J.

I had a complimentary upgrade given to me for some serius distripution inconvenience last year, and they have recorded it on the booking, but they tell me that I will only find out at the gate.
(For ref I am a Platinum)

Given they were happy to sell me an upgrade on points even yesterday this 'compensation' does not sound to be prioritiesed. Anybody else had one of these? Its starting to sound more like an op up as opposed to compensation. Could be very disapoining.

Hows PE and J looking guys.

I fly in 2.5 hrs

Thanks in advance,

Brian.

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