Flight Availability/Loadings & Upgrade Probability Help Desk

[Sprucegoose]

PLEASE INCLUDE DATE, FLIGHT NUMBER, ORIGIN & DESTINATION IN ALL REQUESTS

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Background to this thread
We have noticed an increase in the posting of questions about seat availability on specific flights. These are all valid questions and we all appreciate the efforts our members go to to provide answers.

The only drawback is that our forums can become "cluttered" with specific questions about availability on specific flights. This tends to reduce the overall usability of our site.
We have therefore created this new consolidated thread where you can ask questions about seat availability on specific flights. Hopefully, this will reduce clutter and improve useability.

Guidelines for posting in this thread
Please post questions about availability of specific flights or upgrade probability in this new consolidated thread. Be sure to include the airline, flight number, date, origin and destination and any other relevant detail.

When answering questions, please include the original question. This will assist in readability and management of the thread.

Thanks!

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For Questions about Aircraft Configuration and Seat Availability, please use this thread:​

Understanding [Fare Buckets] Expert Flyer

I'd appreciate some help understanding the information EF provides. For example, F6 A6 J9 C9 D9 I0 B9 H9 K9 M9 R9 L9 V9 S0 N0 Q0 O0 X0 E0 What letters do I look at to try to work out how many seats are still available in economy? What letters do I look at to try to work out how many...

www.australianfrequentflyer.com.au

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See this thread for hints on how to read loadings:

Interpreting and Understanding Expert Flyer​

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If looking for, say Qantas points upgrades, look for A class for First, mid to high D or any I class for Business and any R for Premium Economy.

Look for the most expensive category of the cabin YOU are currently booked in as being sold out e.g. J0 to first, W0 to Business & Y0 to PE for increased op-up chances. Also, look for availability on the discount premium buckets (A, P, I, D, U, T & Z inventories).

Conversely, look for high numbers in the discount economy buckets (N, O, Q, E & X inventories) for reduced op-up chances.

Seat maps can be a VERY rough guide but note that just because a seat is not showing as allocated does not mean that seat hasn't been sold. Not everyone pre-selects seats.

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Original thread title: update on QF93 on 12 sept

Appreciate it if someone could check EP for loadings.

thnxs

SPRUCE

 

[esseeeayeenn]

Thx Boca68,
could you share where is this data from? Expert Flyer?
Would you just opt to Classic Reword in my case and instant confirmation?

Definitely. There are reward seats available on QF30 in J on the 17th. Sadly none in J on either of the CX flights.

 

[Jenya]

Thanks Ansett!

You say you would transfer points from your gold account to you wife's bronze account? Is that right? If you can, request the upgrade from your gold account, stands a slightly better chance.

How is this possible? to purchase tickets for another person from my Gold.... I thought tickets and QFF acc must be on the same name.

Definitely. There are reward seats available on QF30 in J on the 17th. Sadly none in J on either of the CX flights.

yeh, it's very sad, I got ticket to CX105 now but have to change to QF30 now

 

[Ansett]

Thanks Ansett!

How is this possible? to purchase tickets for another person from my Gold.... I thought tickets and QFF acc must be on the same name.

yeh, it's very sad, I got ticket to CX105 now but have to change to QF30 now

It is very simple you select flights and when it comes to enter name you enter name of wife it asks you her relationship to you you confirm wife and all done Simples

 

[cbvortex]

G'day guys,

Looking to book a very last minute flight here.

I know my chances are slim to none, but just wondering what the chances of an upgrade from PE to J would be on the following

QF7 SYD - DFW
1230 - 1300

Looking at either;
-Thursday 20/7/17
-Friday 21/7/17

Thanks in advance.

CB.

 

[Ansett]

G'day guys,

Looking to book a very last minute flight here.

I know my chances are slim to none, but just wondering what the chances of an upgrade from PE to J would be on the following

QF7 SYD - DFW
1230 - 1300

Looking at either;
-Thursday 20/7/17
-Friday 21/7/17

Thanks in advance.

CB.

Can still purchase 9 First class seats on the 20th and 8 J class so may be reasonable subject to other people trying for the upgrade...

 

[cbvortex]

Thank you Ansett
Much appreciated

 

[Ansett]

Thank you Ansett
Much appreciated 

Oh and the 21st Looks like it may be more open

 

[JohnK]

Can someone please post loadings for following flights?

21 JUL 2017 QF551 BNE-SYD 6:35pm
21 JUL 2017 QF553 BNE-SYD 7:35pm

 

[dairyfloss]

Can someone please post loadings for following flights?

21 JUL 2017 QF551 BNE-SYD 6:35pm
21 JUL 2017 QF553 BNE-SYD 7:35pm

Hi JohnK - here's your two options, and the flight in between them:



Cheers,
Matt.

 

[JohnK]

Thanks dairyfloss. The seat maps would be interesting. Flights look wide open and Qantas charging close to $200 for a one-way BNE-SYD.

 

[Longtoo]

Silly question if the experts here don't mind. Let's say there is an Award upgrade request from Y to J. There is no empty J seat, however, at least one F seat is available. Question:
1. do you think the upgrade will happen?
2. if yes to 1. who will get the upgrade? the requester to jump directly to F or J. In the latter, a high status PAX in J would get a free upgrade to F?

 

[Ansett]

Silly question if the experts here don't mind. Let's say there is an Award upgrade request from Y to J. There is no empty J seat, however, at least one F seat is available. Question:
1. do you think the upgrade will happen?
2. if yes to 1. who will get the upgrade? the requester to jump directly to F or J. In the latter, a high status PAX in J would get a free upgrade to F?

More likely some one to go from J to F on points or opup, To go from Y to F is almost never ever heard of.

 

[Longtoo]

Ansett: you mean the requester can go from Y to J and someone in J will get an opup to F?
personally, i would just aim for J as 2J is worth much more than 1F to me.

 

[Ansett]

Ansett: you mean the requester can go from Y to J and someone in J will get an opup to F?
personally, i would just aim for J as 2J is worth much more than 1F to me.

I mean it is possible that the requestor may get his upgrade from Y to J subject to lots of things lining up.
The chance of the requestor going from Y to F is virtually a big fat Zero.
A High Tier flyer may get a complimentary upgrade or some one with a points request from J to F may get to possibly open up a seat in J.

Bear in mind too that some one in PE will have priority over some one in Y.

So I would say realistically the chance of it happening would be slim at best.

 

[cbvortex]

Booked QF7 Flexible Economy at approx 7pm last night for this Thursday 1230 departure.
Requested points upgrade to J

Received text message 8am this confirming upgrade to J

Flexible exonmy was around 1600 cheaper then PE as a return fare.

Winning

Thanks for the info Ansett

 

[dairyfloss]

Thanks dairyfloss. The seat maps would be interesting. Flights look wide open and Qantas charging close to $200 for a one-way BNE-SYD.

Here you go, Mr K - flights in order of departure (551, 563, 553), left to right:



Cheers,
Matt.

 

[JohnK]

Here you go, Mr K - flights in order of departure (551, 563, 553), left to right:

They look to be fairly lightly loaded assuming that most people pre-allocate seat for domestic flights.

 

[thefuz]

Hi all,

Could someone please check the loadings of QF1 SYD-LHR 5/08/17 and QF2 LHR-SYD 17/08/17? Am in PE and have requested upgrade to J. Interested to know what my chances are!

Thanks for your help in advance.

 

[esseeeayeenn]

They look to be fairly lightly loaded assuming that most people pre-allocate seat for domestic flights.

Why assume?

Availability versus Spare Seats

Flight	QF	551	QF	563	QF	553
Class	J	Y	J	Y	J	Y
Availability (GDS)	7	62	4	54	9	64
Spare Seats (EF)	10	108	9	111	12	129

Thus in J 2/5, 3/8 and 0/3 PAX preallocated seats, a total of 5/16 or 31.25%.
And in Y 54/100, 51/108 & 33/98 PAX preallocated, total 138/272 or 50.07%
Total PAX in all cabins 143/288 preallocated seats for an average of 49.65%.

So although a very slim majority of economy PAX preallocated their seats the assumption that "most people preallocate seat for domestic flights" is not borne out by this data.

 

[pjm99au]

Hi all,

Could someone please check the loadings of QF1 SYD-LHR 5/08/17 and QF2 LHR-SYD 17/08/17? Am in PE and have requested upgrade to J. Interested to know what my chances are!

Thanks for your help in advance.

QF1 looks really good at this stage


QF 1SYD 3:50p → LHR 6:55a
F7 A7 J9 C9 D9 I9 W5 R0 T0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L0 G0

QF2 looks somewhat less promising but there is still hope and it is still a way off

QF 2LHR 9:35p → SYD 5:10a
F5 A5 J9 C9 D6 I1 W6 R0 T0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 G0