earlyriser
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Reading the PPrune forum it sounds like there may have been a fire in the front right lavatory that may have spread? This may be wrong just doing my best to decipher the advanced discussions there.
It's gone a bit too technical for me to follow. ACARS reports of smoke in the avionics bay and various window errors. Apparently the reports are genuine and the fellows are discussing what it means.Reading the PPrune forum it sounds like there may have been a fire in the front right lavatory that may have spread? This may be wrong just doing my best to decipher the advanced discussions there.
On PPPRuNe, the last radar data has been discussed. Consensus appears to be that a 90° turn left is standard procedure for a sudden depressurisation event, as the aircraft must descend quickly, and this gains immediate horizontal separation from any aircraft on the same airway at a lower flight level.
Thanks. That makes sense, given what you said earlier about turns taking minutes rather than seconds.Consensus amongst the obvious non pilots perhaps. Whilst you MAY decide to turn off track, it's only about 30 degrees or so...
Because the wings are where they keep the fuel. Most of us here are not pilots, and it was in my mind that there might possibly be a centre tank on the A320 for transferring fuel or something. What do I know?Anyone who mentions 'wing tank explosion' is not a pilot...
Because the wings are where they keep the fuel. Most of us here are not pilots, and it was in my mind that there might possibly be a centre tank on the A320 for transferring fuel or something. What do I know?
Apologies for my editing, but I couldn't resist. Why anyone thinks just about anything that comes of of Donald's mouth is factual is beyond me and in particular feel his opinions (masquerading as fact) add no value whatsoever to this particular discussion.
On May 20th 2016 The Aviation Herald received information from three independent channels, that ACARS (Aircraft Communications Addressing and Reporting System) messages with following content were received from the aircraft:
00:26Z 3044 ANTI ICE R WINDOW
00:26Z 561200 R SLIDING WINDOW SENSOR
00:26Z 2600 SMOKE LAVATORY SMOKE
00:27Z 2600 AVIONICS SMOKE
00:28Z 561100 R FIXED WINDOW SENSOR
00:29Z 2200 AUTO FLT FCU 2 FAULT
00:29Z 2700 F/CTL SEC 3 FAULT
no further ACARS messages were received.
Early May 21st 2016 the French BEA confirmed there were ACARS messages just prior to break down of communications warning however that they are insufficient to understand the causes of the accident until flight data or coughpit voice recorders have been found. Priority as of current is to find the wreckage and the recorders.
It is probably expedient for politicians to blame terrorism or some other external source over something caused by (say) poor maintenance.These are the ACARS messages that were supposedly sent. I've copied this from avherald.com. For what it's worth, the editorial commentary there is normally very sensible, though the comments from the masses can be less so. One of the better sources.
If these are correct, then it points away from the terrorist theories, and more towards an aircraft fault.
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Could someone smoking in the toilet and discarding a lit cigarette have caused the 'avionics smoke'? I.e. immediately after the 'lavatory smoke'?These are the ACARS messages that were supposedly sent. I've copied this from avherald.com. For what it's worth, the editorial commentary there is normally very sensible, though the comments from the masses can be less so. One of the better sources.
If these are correct, then it points away from the terrorist theories, and more towards an aircraft fault.
Because the wings are where they keep the fuel. Most of us here are not pilots, and it was in my mind that there might possibly be a centre tank on the A320 for transferring fuel or something. What do I know?
Could someone smoking in the toilet and discarding a lit cigarette have caused the 'avionics smoke'? I.e. immediately after the 'lavatory smoke'?
Hardly. What looked interesting was the final ACARS notification: "F/CTL SEC 3 FAULT"Inflight smoke--fire-- causing fuel tanks to ignite?.
Hardly. What looked interesting was the final ACARS notification: "F/CTL SEC 3 FAULT"
Apparently this is the circuit breaker for spoilers 1 and 2, out on the wings. How do you spark faults out there?
There are several flight control computers:
3 SEC (spoiler elevator computers)
2 ELAC (elevator aileron computer)
2 FAC (flight augmentation computer - rudder)
Pilot inputs from joystick (side stick), pedals and rudder trim knob feed into these computers
The fault is a computer not circuit breaker fault AKA avionics problem - fire as some have suggested
...From a JQ right seat pilot friend...