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Few days ago at SIN business/first lounge, noticed couple of men in shorts. is there any dress code at first/biz lounge or just SIN more relax with dress code?
 

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Its a 'general' international QP - not First Class - & called International Business.

Regrettably, dress code seems very relaxed. Not sure if shorts would bug me, but the singlet-and-thongs look grates a bit. Toenail clipping has been mentioned in other threads, but not sure if it was an actual sighting.
 

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As per previous threads on this topic, the whole crux of the issue seems to be the fact that the dress code as per the terms and conditions is up to the discretion of the lounge manager.

You can find a plethora of background by finding the threads about the hi viz gear in the lounge...
 

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Toenail clipping has been mentioned in other threads, but not sure if it was an actual sighting.

FWIW, at PER domestic last weekend (the Virgin side) I was about to sit down on one of the banks of chairs. Until I noticed an unattended pile (and I mean pile, it was NOT 3 or 4) of nail clippings on the chair next to it...absolutely disgusting.
 

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FWIW, at PER domestic last weekend (the Virgin side) I was about to sit down on one of the banks of chairs. Until I noticed an unattended pile (and I mean pile, it was NOT 3 or 4) of nail clippings on the chair next to it...absolutely disgusting.
So you sampled them to DNA test, right?
 

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Few days ago at SIN business/first lounge, noticed couple of men in shorts. is there any dress code at first/biz lounge or just SIN more relax with dress code?

You've got to remember, that international lounges are where people are getting comfortable* for a longish - and in the case of SIN - probably overnight flight. So you find, particularly in the international lounges, people dress for comfort for the flight rather than dressing up for the lounge. Either that, or they're off to HKT etc on Jetstar going from hot and humid to hot and humid :). In either case, most people in shorts are usually have reasonably dressy shorts anyway.

* what THEY find comfortable, as an individual preference, I don't want to start a long debate over whether suit pants/jeans are more comfortable than shorts, nor want to get into a debate about the safety of wearing shorts on a flight.
 

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I've just put the popcorn in the microwave for anyone who wants some... :D
 

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Yeah, but something tells me if you turned up at a J or F lounge naked, you probably wouldn't be getting in...

But at least you wouldn't have been held up at security whilst they checked if you were carrying any contrabant under your clothes!!
 

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A topic that unfortunately will never have a consensus.

I'm at the Park Hyatt in Melbourne at the moment and there's a guy in the lounge wearing a t-shirt and trackpants. Not cool, in my opinion.

I think a big part of the issue is the difficulty a lot of people (myself included) find in politely picking people up on their dress. I do pity the lounge manager who has to turn someone away because a 21 year old blonde with large breasts wears a t-shirt saying 'Tell your eyes to stop looking at my breasts'. Or a young guy wearing a t-shirt of a cartoon of two Asians that says 'Two Wongs can make it white' (a Chinese laundry 'advert'). Personally, I find both very inappropriate.

So you sampled them to DNA test, right?

Good idea. If this disgusting behaviour becomes more prevalent, I vote for DNA samples to be logged against FF numbers!
 

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Yeah, but something tells me if you turned up at a J or F lounge naked, you probably wouldn't be getting in...

Speak for yourself, :))

To be serious I have worn shorts in the F lounge and I wore jeans last Wednesday.

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I suppose if this became popular for T-shirts then you would also need stick-on letters for well-endowed 21-year old blondes!
 
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I suspect that "comfort" means different things to different people.
I could not lounge about in thongs, shorts and a T shirt ( other than in the privacy of my back yard or the beach) in an international business lounge.
However some people think this is an acceptable standard.
I really do not feel one needs to be attired in a way that makes their trip uncomfortable. I reckon if you are dressed in clean, smart comfort wear and not daggy jeans and scruffy T shirts then what's the harm. Some people will have come from a business meeting. Others will be on holiday I am certainly not taking business attire on holiday. And it's unlikely a businessman / woman is dragging a case full of holiday gear with them.
 
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I don't think people should impose their ideas of appropriate clothes on others. As long as clothes are clean and not torn and ragged, what does it matter? I am much more interested in behaviour than clothes. I have seen some annoying, loud mouthed behaviour from people in suits. Disclaimer - I tend to dress up a bit when travelling as I enjoy looking "nice", but Mr FM is more a jeans and t-shirt person. We travel only for pleasure and as Mr FM has been semi retired for 25 years, he refuses to wear anything resembling business attire. Four years ago I made him pack a jacket and tie, so we could go to High tea at the Ritz in London and he whined constantly about the necessity :) My "nice" clothes would not be business attire - I don't own any, but pretty dresses or a casual outfit. I would not wear shorts, because at my age that would be an ugly sight, but if someone else wants to, especially in a hot climate like Singapore, that is fine by me!
 

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I don't think people should impose their ideas of appropriate clothes on others. As long as clothes are clean and not torn and ragged, what does it matter? I am much more interested in behaviour than clothes. I have seen some annoying, loud mouthed behaviour from people in suits. Disclaimer - I tend to dress up a bit when travelling as I enjoy looking "nice", but Mr FM is more a jeans and t-shirt person. We travel only for pleasure and as Mr FM has been semi retired for 25 years, he refuses to wear anything resembling business attire. Four years ago I made him pack a jacket and tie, so we could go to High tea at the Ritz in London and he whined constantly about the necessity :) My "nice" clothes would not be business attire - I don't own any, but pretty dresses or a casual outfit. I would not wear shorts, because at my age that would be an ugly sight, but if someone else wants to, especially in a hot climate like Singapore, that is fine by me!

Unfortunately I'm not able to 'impose' my ideas of appropriate clothes on others. :) , same for the rest of the mob here I think. But I think I'm able to express an opinion. I think dress does matter - at the extremes. Some-one dressed like a yobbo is more likely than not to behave like one. (And some-one dressed like a model is likely to behave worse than any yobbo!). If a passenger likes to dress in singlet, shorts and thongs, then I would hope they would be comfortable elsewhere. Maybe a cafeteria rather than a lounge.

Airlines can impose a code they think 'reasonable' - and at QF in SIN its a pretty broad definition!!

It would be great if QF takes a bit of the space in the SIN lounge and turns it over to J/F/WP/WP1 pax.
 

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You've got to remember, that international lounges are where people are getting comfortable* for a longish - and in the case of SIN - probably overnight flight. So you find, particularly in the international lounges, people dress for comfort for the flight rather than dressing up for the lounge. Either that, or they're off to HKT etc on Jetstar going from hot and humid to hot and humid :). In either case, most people in shorts are usually have reasonably dressy shorts anyway.

* what THEY find comfortable, as an individual preference, I don't want to start a long debate over whether suit pants/jeans are more comfortable than shorts, nor want to get into a debate about the safety of wearing shorts on a flight.

Yep travel long haul to Europe a few times a year and always travel in dressy shorts and and comfortable jumper. I think that comfortable clothes is the name of the game for me at least on these flights. I travel each week with work interstate and have to do so in a full suit, anything over 4 hours and thats uncomfortable to me.
I think like a lot of people here common sense in terms of dress code is probably best, singlets and the like probably aren't the best but i don't feel you need to be dressed up like your going to a meeting or some formal event either to be in a lounge.
 
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