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Hi
First of all i don't no why my preview thread was taken down since it was related to Qantas questions. Oh though the questions i recently i ask was never answered and it's there for why i ask here because it's always good to know things.

So apologies if something went wrong. But i highly respect the forum and so you should do too without getting off topic.

So if i permit to ask here are what i wanted to know.

1: I have a flight to catch on the 787 Dreamliner and i be seating at the last back row of the Premium seat from Bne to LAX. My flight departures 830pm next month and i get to LAX by about approximately 415pm same day (unless any delays during the day or arrival) So since i have the option to change my seat for free.. I like to know where will i be able to see the sunrise from.. The left side of the windows or right side of the windows.. geographically i don't exactly know how the plane would fly off in it's directions but my ideal was to view that yellow orange beautiul glowing early morning sunrise as i like to capture that from my camera. And there for i ask you for this flight which direction is the sunrise is viewed.. left or right of the window seat! And yes i will have my window seat. I do like to see the views and capture it on camera. Was just curious to find out where is the most best view for this direction. it's a late flight next month.

2: Silly question this one is but still admire and curious to know. So since the Dreamliner for the Premium seats is a small group of seats.. Do the staff actually close the curtain all thru the flight or half way the flight the curtains where no one else can walk past premium group and as well business class.. So just remember i fly many times but not always with Qantas and there for i did notice the staff always forgets or delays to close the curtains or even they don't really bother to close it properly so it is more discrete for these on different group seats of the plane. Tho i be actually right next to one of these curtains since my preference seat was the back row of the premium seat.

3: Please correct me because i have no idea.. The Qantas Dreamliner from bne to LAX is the meals different for these on premium vs Economy ? If so what is actually different from them both when it comes to meals and or ask... Guess premium do get more privileges of more food to give ?

4: And one like you and like me and anyone prefers a good entertainment of things on the front tv you have on the seat. So i personally do not watch much movies or dramas. However i do watch alot of reality such as cooking shows... travel shows... Science shows and all that to do with documentaries. So i do not know how good or how much content and interesting things are there to watch with Qantas on the dreamliner for the tv programming. So maybe someone can bring light to this because my last experience with Qantas via HK it was pretty boring not much to watch just mainly movies that i didn't even like and very small amount of documentaries which end up not enough for that 8 hour travel. So i like to know what is there to watch.. I do like the news though... This Bne to LAX it is a 12 hour so i would of course want entertainment on board. Also im not into games or app games as it is rather childish.


Again thanks and these are questions i like to know but it also will help readers who may also be interested because i think it is good questions.. After all ou want to enjoy your flight and you have the rights to ask. After all all im doing is asking your help as much as you do when you want to know something as it is a forum for everybody. But please do not go off topic. It's important to stick with the question if you know the answer. If you dont no the answer then please do not message here.

Thank you people.

In Question 1. Also like to know the length in which i be able to see (daylight) or getting daylight morning.... since my flight departs 830pm i get to lax 415pm but i like to know how many hours will it be day light starting from the point of departure by 830pm and to the length when the plane is flying.. will it be day light in 4 hours time ? or something. Since the sun anticlockwise and the plane goes towards to East while th sun follows the west.. make sound though as if the night will be shorter but more day time longer during the flight. Who knows im not a mathematical on this.
 
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I sleep easily without an eye mask, and prefer not to have the pressure of an eye mask on my face. But I can easily tell in my sleep when a window has been opened.

It's like when youre a teenager and your mum wakes you up by opening your blinds.
 

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Why do they hand out eye masks?

Because the ambient light in the cabin, even with blinds shut, is still annoying for light sleepers (the glow of all those seat back screens is a big part of it). And the eye masks don't block out all light - they all work together.

The window dimmers aren't as good as old school blinds so the ambient light is brighter.

The other point, if you consider the number of passengers not sleeping, the vast majority of those are trying to watch movies and also don't want bright lights. It's a very small minority of people who feel the need to disturb others by opening the blinds.
 

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However i agreed that it is wrong that they would lock it all the way or most of the whole flight. Considering a 12 hour straihgt flight and knowing it will most be day time half way.. Yet the windows will be locked. Or half way though. Not sure. I will just have to find out and tell you how it went just to give this information more accuracy but in all respect i think it is rather unfair if they where to lock it. But why would they want to lock it when its dark regardless since after all it still be dark. Or they seem to that the day time will be sooner and of course this is after all a night time sleep mode flight. Considering it departs at 830pm and it will be dark most of it to LAX but then you know i get there about 430pm aprox. So surely its already passing the afternoon session. So i also do hope that the windows are not constantly locked all the times..

You should have dinner within the first two hours after take off, and another meal about two hours before you land. They normally dim the cabin for the entire period between these meals.

What the sun is doing outside is completely irrelevant. Also another posters comments about seeing a natural dawn is also irrelevant. Your position on the earth is moving so there is no benefit in adapting your circadian rhythm to time zones you are just flying over (it works for cruise ships though...). Yes, natural light is good but only when you should be awake. To beat jet lag, you really should be sleeping as much as you can on that flight.

It's all about your destination time zone. If you are arriving at 4pm, you want to arrive fairly well rested and able to stay up for at least 6 more hours after landing without needing a nap or sleep. Considering you leave Brisbane in the evening (and should already be tired), you are going to (ideally) need about 6-8 hours of sleep on the flight.

This direction is rather tricky, it's a lot easier to extend your circadian rhythm (flying West) than to shorten it (flying East). That's based on the simple principle that it's easier to stay up 6 hours more than you usually do, then going to sleep 6 hours early.
 

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Begail you seem to really be over thinking things. You keep coming up with half a dozen questions then ignoring most of the answers given to you in favour of your own ponderings, then coming up with an additional half dozen unrelated questions.

You get what you get. Just try and relax and enjoy yourself. Most people don't even get to ever fly anything besides economy for their whole life. Don't over think things.
 

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You get what you get. Just try and relax and enjoy yourself. Most people don't even get to ever fly anything besides economy for their whole life. Don't over think things.

This is really true. Before my current job, I never got to fly J or even Prem Eco. Because of work however, I now have SC status and fly Prem Eco regularly and really appreciate every aspect of the experience.

Honestly, it's very exciting the first time you fly anything other than crappy economy and I had the same questions in my head before I flew.

Foodwise, think of it as Business- instead of Economy+. It's very similar to the J menu, but you're given fewer choices but the quality is good and it's served on real cutlery.
 

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Come on people. Next he/she will be asking what brand of cutlery they supply, what settings he/she should use on his camera to best capture the yellow/orange sunrise...............
 

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You should have dinner within the first two hours after take off, and another meal about two hours before you land. They normally dim the cabin for the entire period between these meals.

What the sun is doing outside is completely irrelevant. Also another posters comments about seeing a natural dawn is also irrelevant. Your position on the earth is moving so there is no benefit in adapting your circadian rhythm to time zones you are just flying over (it works for cruise ships though...). Yes, natural light is good but only when you should be awake. To beat jet lag, you really should be sleeping as much as you can on that flight.

It's all about your destination time zone. If you are arriving at 4pm, you want to arrive fairly well rested and able to stay up for at least 6 more hours after landing without needing a nap or sleep. Considering you leave Brisbane in the evening (and should already be tired), you are going to (ideally) need about 6-8 hours of sleep on the flight.

This direction is rather tricky, it's a lot easier to extend your circadian rhythm (flying West) than to shorten it (flying East). That's based on the simple principle that it's easier to stay up 6 hours more than you usually do, then going to sleep 6 hours early.


Hi thanks for that information. Interesting. So correct me.. I depart 830pm but surely i wouldnt want to sleep straight away since there is a meal coming up shortly (Dinner meal) then of course after that go to sleep when its about 12 midnight Australian standard time while on board. Then sleep for a good 6 hours if i can ? Then wake up half way thru the flight? Remember it is a 12 hour straight flight and also consider that by the time i get to LA it is 430pm in the afternoon. So trying to know what is the best pattern to sleep to and from. Just so i dont get that jet lack sort of feel. Yes it is tricky but works ok if it's done preciesly. Oh though when i get on the long haul flights usually i cant even sleep all thru the hours correctly. I seem to just constantly (Drift) and half way kind of still awake but mini bits of sleeping patterns like tired yes but i cant never seem to sleep deep to it all thru the hours. Im aware of my sorrounding. Plus the sound of the plane and the way im seating you cant sleep while seating down. But you get what i meant. So perhaps for this flight get as much as sleep. Or alternative sleep more longer while been at home BEFORE going to the airport? I be going to the airport by 6pm or even slightly less by 5pm So should i sleep as normal hours but not to get up until 10am ? there for i had enough sleep usually i get up by 8am by all means. Just want to simply feel refresh and alerted.. instead of feeling disorientated after been so jet lack once i land in LAX.

There are ways.. But then again when i day time you tempt to sleep less as you begin to hear noises. Again i can not skip breakfast if i was to wake up 10am or something like that. but aniways thats just an example.

Thanks for the posties here.. Your message is value and understandable. I understand. Well yes im only lucky to fly on Premium economy but recall that i don't ever have this privileges as things are extremely expensive. (I bet the airline cost for tickets hasn't really changed since i remember the 80's)

I never knew that Premium Economy for this 787 Dreamliner has upgraded meal on board. I thought from what im reading on Qantas website with just basic information it sounds as though the food is the same as Economy passengers on this flight.

Does this mean that everyone who is seated on the premium seat gets attended by the staff with a paper to ask the passenger what they wish to have for meals ? Just like they personally do so with Business passengers they come to the passenger with a pen and paper and ask orders of meals customised how the traveler wants for meals.

Normal Economy passengers just looks at a tiny short menu with what ever they going to give... So i wonder if the premium group they get more attendant on menu list or customised it just like they do with business class passengers.

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By the way in relation to the curtains behind me. I do hope they wont forget to close the curtains so that there is no disturbance between economy vs premium. Plus since my seat will be on thr right side as i like to view the sunrise if ever a chance to see that... i will hve the seat at the back row.. So do hope they close the curtains down but not sure if the curtains will be close on meal time or on sleep time only.

Also i selected the back row seat of the premium because you get basically 2 windows believe it or not... And also you can recline your seat all thru most of the flight and wouldn't feel bad at all because no one will be seating behind you. So thats why i chooses the back row last seat behind the wall.. Because you get the 2 windows.. Unless of course the front passenger in front of me reclines the seat which can be rather annoying.

ive also looked on the live seating map on qantas... this flight i going the actual premium seat is 97% full.. Must be popular.. Maybe business people or maybe rich families i don't no. I aint no rich.. I got it cheaper because i paid it months and months ago before the price was going up.
But i cant veiw the economy seating live map.. since my ticket is premium so all i can view live map are the premium seating group.

But what got me mad was that i was unable to select the front seat on all that front seat rows.. these where blocked... Not sure why... Considering i paid extra for this premium trip to LA... But yes the rest of the seats where free to select. Just not the front rows of the seats or should i say the first rows as these seats where some how always blocked regardless even if you tried to play around online on qantas by pretending to book you can see the premium live seat map too without paying. Give it a try you will see what i mean and always the front rows seats are always blocked unable to get these seats... You can request but that would make a mockering waiting for a answer.. So i just selected the back row seat instead. At least i get 2 windows.. Just like the same as you get from the front row seats in the premium.
 
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Hi thanks for that information. Interesting. So correct me.. I depart 830pm but surely i wouldnt want to sleep straight away since there is a meal coming up shortly (Dinner meal) then of course after that go to sleep when its about 12 midnight Australian standard time while on board. Then sleep for a good 6 hours if i can ? Then wake up half way thru the flight? Remember it is a 12 hour straight flight and also consider that by the time i get to LA it is 430pm in the afternoon. So trying to know what is the best pattern to sleep to and from. Just so i dont get that jet lack sort of feel. Yes it is tricky but works ok if it's done preciesly. Oh though when i get on the long haul flights usually i cant even sleep all thru the hours correctly. I seem to just constantly (Drift) and half way kind of still awake but mini bits of sleeping patterns like tired yes but i cant never seem to sleep deep to it all thru the hours. Im aware of my sorrounding. Plus the sound of the plane and the way im seating you cant sleep while seating down. But you get what i meant. So perhaps for this flight get as much as sleep. Or alternative sleep more longer while been at home BEFORE going to the airport? I be going to the airport by 6pm or even slightly less by 5pm So should i sleep as normal hours but not to get up until 10am ? there for i had enough sleep usually i get up by 8am by all means. Just want to simply feel refresh and alerted.. instead of feeling disorientated after been so jet lack once i land in LAX.

There are ways.. But then again when i day time you tempt to sleep less as you begin to hear noises. Again i can not skip breakfast if i was to wake up 10am or something like that. but aniways thats just an example.

In an ideal world you would sleep straight after the meal service (or better yet, eat at the airport and go straight to sleep). Sleep for around 6 hours, watch a movie and then have the final meal service. That means you would have woken up at 12pm local time so you should be able to sleep OK by 10/11pm.

But that's ideal, don't over think it. Just get some sleep on the plane and you'll be fine. Try and spend time outside in the sun when you land. Don't go to bed too early.

It's a lot more important on the way back - with a very late evening departure and an early morning arrival - if you don't sleep on the plane you are going to be absolutely wrecked and will take days to recover. The Eastbound trip, whilst harder to manage, doesn't matter as much if you screw it up (if you don't sleep at all on the plane you are looking at a 41 hour day vs a 55 hour day Eastbound, depending on DST). Just remember, don't nap or sleep until your normal bedtime when you land.
 

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Also thanks and thanks to sharing your concern for the windows if the windows are blocked or dim.. some may be bothered some. I too if i was in your situation. But of course same time i wouldnt want to wake every body up. But here is the thing.. Does the dreamliner has a live cam view of the outide plane to capture the views on my screen ? Usually most airliens has that camera pointing below the outside plane and another top of the outide plane with a full view of the live plane nd th views.. So i wonder if that is also on the Qantas dreamliner.
 

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But what got me mad was that i was unable to select the front seat on all that front seat rows.. these where blocked... Not sure why...

The front section is blocked off for Qantas/One World status holders (Gold, Plat, Plat One, OWS and OWE). Same as with the front row sections in Economy and Business.

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In terms of meals, Prem Eco gets a menu and can select from 2-3 different options for the main and 2-3 options for the Entree :)

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Yes Dreamliner has external cams.
 

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In an ideal world you would sleep straight after the meal service (or better yet, eat at the airport and go straight to sleep). Sleep for around 6 hours, watch a movie and then have the final meal service. That means you would have woken up at 12pm local time so you should be able to sleep OK by 10/11pm.

But that's ideal, don't over think it. Just get some sleep on the plane and you'll be fine. Try and spend time outside in the sun when you land. Don't go to bed too early.

It's a lot more important on the way back - with a very late evening departure and an early morning arrival - if you don't sleep on the plane you are going to be absolutely wrecked and will take days to recover. The Eastbound trip, whilst harder to manage, doesn't matter as much if you screw it up (if you don't sleep at all on the plane you are looking at a 41 hour day vs a 55 hour day Eastbound, depending on DST). Just remember, don't nap or sleep until your normal bedtime when you land.


Hi thanks and great information
When you said as i quoted: (That means you would have woken up at 12pm local time so you should be able to sleep OK by 10/11pm.) is this LA time or Australia time ?

Flight departs 830pm from Bne. It arrives to LA at 430pm (on the same day)
So of course i wouldnt want to sleep straight away after i got on the plane.. theres a dinner meal to come. But then i go to sleep after the meal (remember they wont really shut the lights down after at least maybe 1 hour and a half after the meals.. I think.. Which means i would end up going to sleep on that flight around lets say 1130pm Australia time (since the flight is already out to the open sea)

So... let me get this right... i would then sleep or try to anyways around 1130 or 12 midnight (asutralia time) and then wake up about 5 or 6 hours which means it will already be almost day time outside i think (remember what i said about the anticlockwise and the sun direction)

Or perhaps everyone will still be asleep all thru the entire flight until at least 3 hours before touch down to LA since it will be 430pm afternoon. I just simply want to feel refresh and like a local in LA... Rather then feeling strange or lack or disorientated by feeling tired all thru the final stages.... I need to be refreshed and awaken by the time i get to LAX airport... cant walk around feeling jet lack thats for sure. Sorry for the confusions... Just like to make it right this time.. Long haul flights can be aching and painful for most of us.... its after all a 12 long hour flight non stop.

If i was to sleep most of it all... then by the time i get to LAX i will feel so refreshed that by the time it is night time in LAX hours later i wouldnt be able to sleep right because i be like recently just woken up in the first place while i was in the plane (depending how long hours from and to)

For example by th time i wake up on the plane it will be like as if im waking up at 8am australia.. since i wake up like 8am usually. But instead it will almost be 430pm LA time and there for as it becomes nighttime soon in LA i will feel far too refreshed that i wouldnt be able to sleep until maybe 1 am LA time.. or something. You get what i meant.

Most of my trips i have done end up feeling disorientated and nervours all around me specially carrying the luggage around and lack of sleep or feeling strange because the diferent time frames.
 

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If take-off is 830pm you won't be finished dinner much before 11. Then you have time to unwind before sleep at 12. Sleep for six hours or until whenever you wake up. Have the meal and land. A 430pm arrival after along flight, plus arriving at a busy airport and immigration and customs... by the time it gets to midnight local time (around 8 hours after you arrive) you will be tired again and ready for a good sleep.

The curtain may or may not stay completely closed for the flight. I have seen them partially open, and sometimes people walk through them and forget to pull them shut. If this is the case you can always pull them shut yourself if you want. Doesn't always make much of a difference though - sometimes people just want to go through for whatever reason (to use the toilet, or walking or whatever.)
 

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Hi thanks and great information
When you said as i quoted: (That means you would have woken up at 12pm local time so you should be able to sleep OK by 10/11pm.) is this LA time or Australia time ?

LA time. The minute you board the plane change your watch to your destination time zone. Forget about Brisbane - it's in the past.

I feel you are overthinking this...
 

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You get what you get. Just try and relax and enjoy yourself. Most people don't even get to even fly anything besides economy for their whole life. Don't over think things.

Whilst truer words have never been spoken (at least on this forum), this can easily be changed to flying full stop. Realistically very few people ever get to step foot on a plane.
 

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If take-off is 830pm you won't be finished dinner much before 11. Then you have time to unwind before sleep at 12. Sleep for six hours or until whenever you wake up. Have the meal and land. A 430pm arrival after along flight, plus arriving at a busy airport and immigration and customs... by the time it gets to midnight local time (around 8 hours after you arrive) you will be tired again and ready for a good sleep.

The curtain may or may not stay completely closed for the flight. I have seen them partially open, and sometimes people walk through them and forget to pull them shut. If this is the case you can always pull them shut yourself if you want. Doesn't always make much of a difference though - sometimes people just want to go through for whatever reason (to use the toilet, or walking or whatever.)


Thank you to you and also to every body participating. Its great to get some understandable messages here. Specially the window dim discussion as i think most of us all agree that its not right if the airline blocks the windows.. I mean i can still respec tthat people would want to sleep. But not to have the windows purely darken. Otherwise im unable to see what it looks like outside when the sun slowly comes up. not the sun but more when you see that yellow orange distance field horizon looks. Thats what i love to see... Not exactly the brightness of the daylight. but rather more the dawn.

I will try my best uck in sleeping pattern.. but yes.. I just dont want to mix it up.. Considering i be going to LAX and arriving on the same day as i just departures in Brisbane at 830pm while i actually arrive same day but at 430pm in LA... So it will feel as if the day i left is stil longer hours due to the fact i get there on the same day i left in the first place. So thats why it will feel as if a monday feels like a long monday feel to it. You get what i meant.

But i will try my luck to sleep. I know i will sleep as normal hours here in Australia usually i go to bed around 1230at night... then i seem to wake up at 8am. But this time since my flight leaves at 830pm and i must get to the airport by 5pm i will try get up around 9ish AM instead of 8am.. just so that i can get that extra sleep before hoping on the plane so that... dunno i think just so i dont feel disorientated on a 12 hour long haul flight. because as we all aware LAX is a crazy airport full of passangers and have to go here and there and stamp the passport before collecting the luggages.

Just out of interest.. When i arrive to LAX am i suppose to get the passport stamp FIRST before collecting the lugages or am i suppose to go thru security check before the passport gets stamp and before luggages collections? You know a place where they scan your body and carry on bags..... Though not sure how big luggages can go thru that for scanning. But in all caeses am i suppose to go thru security check? If you dont have nothing to delcare or no food with you... why not just leave exit way instead of going thru security check to look at the luggages ?

In brisbane from all i remember when i arrived from Hk... I recall going thru a automatic scan the passport and then i remember i went thru the next stage by picking up the luggages... and the next stage was going thru a corrido wehre you MIGHT or might not go thru luggage inspections. For me i never end up going thru luggage inspections... i always tell me i only carry some chocolate and they just tell me to go thru that exist way ... But the rest of the other asian people end up going thru the security check where they look at peoples luggages. So what are the chances of me as a visitor ? am i suppose to go thru exist or go to this lane so they inspect your luggages ?

Again i will wrap my luggages in wraping at the airport which is safe... dont want anything unexpected. But regardless i might still have to go thru luggage inspections even if your luggages are fully wrap in plastic on the arrival land to LAX by qantas ? Im total wish to know this one!
 

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I would save your money on bag wrapping. Going from Australia to the USA there is absolutely no need for it. Your bags will be protected from the weather by being loaded into large baggage containers. And no one is going to smuggle anything in your luggage.

Youwill also be kinder to the environment saving all that plastic.
 

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So what are the chances of me as a visitor ? am i suppose to go thru exist or go to this lane so they inspect your luggages ?

Customs inspection is both random and specific.

Specific in that they'll inspect you if you tick yes to any of the questions on the form.
Random in that they'll also tell you to bring your luggage for customs inspection on a "random" basis. This is to ensure people don't simply smuggle stuff through by virtue of ticking "no" to everything on the customs form.

This happens at pretty much every airport in the world, including when you come back to Australia. You see a lot of asians in the "Declare" line because customs officers know a lot of them either don't understand the customs laws or wilfully tick "NO" and head to "Nothing to Declare" even though their luggage is full of raw fish.
 
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Pretty sure hardly anybody agrees with you regarding locking the windows...

Also, I don't know of any airports in the world where arriving passengers get their bodies and carry on luggage scanned before going through immigration or collecting their checked in luggage. If you mean customs, then that's after you collect your luggage and usually they just waive you through once they see you're coming from Australia since its a low risk country.

Just make sure you have TSA locks. And stop over thinking.
 
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