Double QANTAS points on flights booked 29/3 to 5/4

[RichardMEL]

Sheeeeet!
I made a paid F booking SYD-DFW-SYD just days before I knew of this.

well F fares are usually refundable? Cancel and rebook if it's really that important? (I admit it would be a fair slew of points on that)

 

[RichardMEL]

Must remember to keep the BP and probably make a claim, if the double points don't post.
Clicked the link above, provided email address, and acknowledged the email from QF FF, and just made a QF booking, WLG - SYD - ADL in J, earning me about 58xx points, with double points would have been 10k approximately.
Though, I made the booking on the QF NZ website, wonder if that will work.

Why wouldn't it? The promotion indicates any QF marketed flight number worldwide. The booking agent (in this case, QF NZ) isn't really relevant. If you want to be concerned, it would be the fine print in the T&C: "Double Qantas Points may not be earned on some fare types and booking classes including Classic Flight Rewards and any flight with a QF flight number on the ticket which is not operated by Qantas including; Jetstar, Jetstar Asia, Valuair, Jetstar Japan, Jetstar Pacific and other partner airlines. See Airline Earning Tables for details." - ("... and other partner airlines" bit) however I'd be pretty confident that QF codeshare on EK is fine, as they've always been fine for such promotions in the past.

Anyway you booked the flight you already were going to book so isn't that the main thing?

 

[JohnK]

I am thinking flights booked with online travel agents such as Zuji will be ok.

Not so sure about QF codeshares on EK metal. Not worth risking.

 

[medhead]

Why wouldn't it? The promotion indicates any QF marketed flight number worldwide. The booking agent (in this case, QF NZ) isn't really relevant. If you want to be concerned, it would be the fine print in the T&C: "Double Qantas Points may not be earned on some fare types and booking classes including Classic Flight Rewards and any flight with a QF flight number on the ticket which is not operated by Qantas including; Jetstar, Jetstar Asia, Valuair, Jetstar Japan, Jetstar Pacific and other partner airlines. See Airline Earning Tables for details." - ("... and other partner airlines" bit) however I'd be pretty confident that QF codeshare on EK is fine, as they've always been fine for such promotions in the past.

Anyway you booked the flight you already were going to book so isn't that the main thing?

I am thinking flights booked with online travel agents such as Zuji will be ok.

Not so sure about QF codeshares on EK metal. Not worth risking.

I can't see any limitation on point of sale. But it seems pretty clearly limited to Qantas operated flights, plus a few AA operated QF codeshares. It doesn't say that AA are the only "Selected Qantas Codeshares". Happy if someone can find the full list of those selected codeshares.

Wherever you want to go, now is the time to book all your upcoming travel with us. Because for a limited time, you'll earn double Qantas Points on all eligible Qantas flights to all destinations*!

So whether you're planning an Aussie adventure or your next overseas jaunt, you've now got twice the reasons to book with this all-together amazing double points offer.

Simply register and then make your bookings between 29 March and 5 April 2016, for travel between 29 March 2016 and 17 March 2017. So with almost a year to fly, you can book all of your flights now for twice the rewards later.

You must be a Qantas Frequent Flyer member to earn and redeem Qantas Points. A joining fee may apply. Membership and the earning and redemption of Qantas Points are subject to the Qantas Frequent Flyer program Terms and Conditions.

* An eligible flight for the purpose of this promotion means any Qantas operated flight with a QF flight number on your ticket where Status Credits or Qantas Points are normally earned. Double Qantas Points may not be earned on some fare types and booking classes including Classic Flight Rewards and any non Qantas operated flights with a QF flight number on the ticket operated by Jetstar, Jetstar Asia, Valuair and Jetstar Japan or partner airlines. See the Airline Earning Tables for details. This double points offer is valid when you register and make a new booking on eligible Qantas operated flights with a QF flight number on your ticket, plus selected QF codeshare flights including American Airlines operated flights on the following routes; Sydney to Los Angeles (QF309), Los Angeles to Sydney (QF310), Auckland to Los Angeles (QF3225) and Los Angeles to Auckland (QF3226). New flight bookings must be made between 12.01am (AEDT) 29 March 2016 and 11:59pm (AEDT) 5 April 2016 for travel between 29 March 2016 and 17 March 2017. You must register and book by 11.59pm (AEDT) 5 April 2016 to be eligible for this offer. Qantas may extend or withdraw the offer. Each passenger in the same booking must register to qualify for this bonus offer. Flights are subject to availability and any applicable fare conditions. Flights can be booked via qantas.com, a travel agent or Qantas Contact Centres. Fees may apply. Your Qantas Frequent Flyer membership number must be recorded at the time of registration and booking to earn bonus Qantas Points. Bonus Qantas Points are based on the Base Rate which applies, or the Minimum Points Guarantee if applicable and for the purposes of this promotion, does not include any Status Bonus that may apply for tier members. This offer cannot be used in conjunction with any other bonus offer by Qantas. Only one double Qantas Points offer can be used per individual qualifying segment of your itinerary. If you qualify for multiple offers, the offer first-registered for will be applied to each individual qualifying segment. Full or part travel of an itinerary is eligible only if you book and travel within the promotional dates as listed above. If you change or cancel your initial qualifying booking and/or travel is completed outside the promotional period, this bonus offer will not apply. Bonus Qantas Points may take up to 6 weeks after completion of your travel to be credited to your Qantas Frequent Flyer account.

 

[RichardMEL]

ah "QF *operated*" that says it all. yep so QF on EK would be not included.

 

[Awesom Andy]

The way I interpret it is that it must be both QF code and QF metal, plus the 4 listed QF code and AA metal flights to/from LAX.

 

[medhead]

ah "QF *operated*" that says it all. yep so QF on EK would be not included.

Unless it is a "Selected QF codeshare".

This is my rant about sentence construction and grammar and such. Saying "Selected QF codeshare including" XYZ, does not actually provide a definitive list. Ok, yes those AA flights definitely are included. but it doesn't say that nothing else is included.

Qantas used to be pretty good at writing precise conditions. Recently we've been getting conditions that make it impossible to know the situation exactly. A sign of lowering education standards!

The way I interpret it is that it must be both QF code and QF metal, plus the 4 listed QF code and AA metal flights to/from LAX.

It doesn't actually say those 4 AA flights are the only selected QF codeshares. they probably are the only ones, but not possible to tell from the conditions as written.

mumble, grumble...

 

[RichardMEL]

It's irritating that it refers one to the Airline Earning Table - infering that information on what eligible flights are there - yet there's nothing obvious on that page suggesting anything of the sort ....

 

[eosphoros]

I am thinking flights booked with online travel agents such as Zuji will be ok.

Not so sure about QF codeshares on EK metal. Not worth risking.

I'm hoping TA/ticket stock won't matter. About to pull the trigger on a DONE4.

Another problem I'm having is the definition of 'booked'. Does that require that my ticket be issued or is a reservation sufficient? (Based on past experience, it might take a few days for AA to issue the ticket...)

For those who have argued with QFF cx previously, how tedious is it to get the bonus in situations where it isn't exactly clear? If I can't get the bonus points, I'm going to book on AA code for a few hundred dollars cheaper.

 

[RichardMEL]

I'm hoping TA/ticket stock won't matter. About to pull the trigger on a DONE4.

Another problem I'm having is the definition of 'booked'. Does that require that my ticket be issued or is a reservation sufficient? (Based on past experience, it might take a few days for AA to issue the ticket...)

My thought based on previous experience is that it would go on the PNR creation date not the final ticketing date.

eg previous triple points promo over Dec/Jan had something like book by 25 Dec (IIRC) condition. I created a booking on Dec 3 or something, but did not ticket actual Jan flights until early Jan. So PNR creation date was within the validity period... points allocated (tbh it was a surprise to me, but a welcome one)

so I use that as basis to suggest it should be OK.

As for ticketed on AA if it's QF operated QF flight number flight as part of the RTW, then it should still qualify IMHO. No suggestion of 081 (QF) ticket stock required.

 

[JohnK]

My thought based on previous experience (with vouchers) is that it would go on the PNR creation date not the final ticketing date.

If that's the case then one needs to be careful. I know some travel agents create a booking when you ask for a quote and then finalise/cancel the booking depending on what you do.

In the case of eosphoros and the DONE4 they are about to book make sure the PNR was not created outside of the promotion window otherwise they'll have the same issues as gift vouchers purchased in December.

 

[Awesom Andy]

If that's the case then one needs to be careful. I know some travel agents create a booking when you ask for a quote and then finalise/cancel the booking depending on what you do.

I think in some cases they would even hold the ticket for you, so if there was, say, only 1 class S ticket, it would be held by the agent and you can't book it anywhere else. I don't think it's widely practiced, but I have seen it done before.

 

[RichardMEL]

Very good point and if one has been building a complex itin for some time but on hold then yes, it could put a spanner in the works.

 

[marki]

Very good point and if one has been building a complex itin for some time but on hold then yes, it could put a spanner in the works.

Only one bonus Qantas Points offer can be used per individual qualifying segment of your itinerary. If you qualify for multiple offers, the offer first-registered for will be applied to each individual qualifying segment.

So this means my multi - segment flight from Melbourne to LA then NY then LHR then MEL on the first leg counts....that sucks...? Or is the interpretation somehow different. I truly thought that the whole itinerary would count. And only base points so status bonus or cabin bonus wave goodbye. The deal not as great when reading fine print.

 

[medhead]

Only one bonus Qantas Points offer can be used per individual qualifying segment of your itinerary. If you qualify for multiple offers, the offer first-registered for will be applied to each individual qualifying segment.

So this means my multi - segment flight from Melbourne to LA then NY then LHR then MEL on the first leg counts....that sucks...? Or is the interpretation somehow different.

Are you asking if you only get double points on the first segment? IF so there is nothing in the quoted condition that can justify that question. That condition is about multiple offers. Double points is a SINGLE offer. That condition clearly says that a single offer will be applied to EACH segment.

Whoever is creating this doubt in the Facebook group needs to pull their head in. This is about the 7th time I've seen this question raised in relation to offers. STOP IT

 

[marki]

My understanding that only the Mel -La segment will count the others are "Poof" gone despite being on Qantas Metal. Only one bonus Qantas points offer per individual qualifying segment can be used.

Are you asking if you only get double points on the first segment? IF so there is nothing in the quoted condition that can justify that question. That condition is about multiple offers. Double points is a SINGLE offer. That condition clearly says that a single offer will be applied to EACH segment.

Whoever is creating this doubt in the Facebook group needs to pull their head in. This is about the 7th time I've seen this question raised in relation to offers. STOP IT

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[basso]

My understanding that only the Mel -La segment will count the others are "Poof" gone despite being on Qantas Metal. Only one bonus Qantas points offer per individual qualifying segment can be used. ---??

I think you are misreading. You will get the bonus on each segment of your muti - segment itinery (assuming all other conditions are met etc. etc.). Each segment is a qualifying segment, not just the first one. But you can only get one bonus on each of those individual segments.

 

[marki]

I think you are misreading. You will get the bonus on each segment of your muti - segment itinery (assuming all other conditions are met etc. etc.). Each segment is a qualifying segment, not just the first one. But you can only get one bonus on each of those individual segments.

MedHead is right the language used is so unclear that they will (Qantas) win in any case.

 

[medhead]

My understanding that only the Mel -La segment will count the others are "Poof" gone despite being on Qantas Metal. Only one bonus Qantas points offer per individual qualifying segment can be used. ---??

One offer per segment. You get one offer on every segment. The double points is one offer, it can be used on every segment that otherwise qualifies.

The language is very clear. One offer per segment. Not the offer on one segment only.

Now if you had an offer of double SC and a separate offer of double points, that conditions means you can only have one offer per segment. Either double points or double SC - Not both. But you would still get one of those offers on every segment.

 

[marki]

One offer per segment. You get one offer on every segment. The double points is one offer, it can be used on every segment that otherwise qualifies.

The language is very clear. One offer per segment. Not the offer on one segment only.

Now if you had an offer of double SC and a separate offer of double points, that conditions means you can only have one offer per segment. Either double points or double SC - Not both. But you would still get one of those offers on every segment.

Ok got Medhead thank you .... I suppose the fiasco of which ℅ share flights with QF flight number count is the next problem which you yourself have said is not clea