Current Qantas First Lounge Menu (SYD/MEL) and relevant topics

Quite envious of the lunch and dinner feasts! 100% of my international travel has me in the F lounges for breakfast and I always order the same thing: Signature Breakfast.

Last time I was in the F lounge for an evening flight was pre-Covid.
 
THANK YOU so much serfty for sharing that wine list... though I had dared to hope you'd be bringing better news. That really is a pretty lame selection - nothing 'first class' about it. Cements my view that the EK lounge, visually unexciting though it is, has vastly better wine than QF Flounge.

I'm on a Thursday evening flight to NZ with various friends, and was originally planning to arrive early for a quick visit to QF F for a drink and to sample something from the new menu before meeting my friends in the EK lounge. Is it worth the effort, I ask myself....
 
THANK YOU so much serfty for sharing that wine list... though I had dared to hope you'd be bringing better news. That really is a pretty lame selection - nothing 'first class' about it. Cements my view that the EK lounge, visually unexciting though it is, has vastly better wine than QF Flounge.

I'm on a Thursday evening flight to NZ with various friends, and was originally planning to arrive early for a quick visit to QF F for a drink and to sample something from the new menu before meeting my friends in the EK lounge. Is it worth the effort, I ask myself....
We’re heading eastbound tomorrow and the EK lounge doen’t even factor into it. Far to much hotel lobby like with buffet for my liking.

Well, unless our departure gate is nearby and we decide to decamp closer to departure.
 
THANK YOU so much serfty for sharing that wine list... though I had dared to hope you'd be bringing better news. That really is a pretty lame selection - nothing 'first class' about it. Cements my view that the EK lounge, visually unexciting though it is, has vastly better wine than QF Flounge.
The QF F lounge have never had regular top tier wines.
Christmas decanter offerings of Grange are clearly excluded.
If you are comparing it to DXB EK F wines, it's night and day. But then again look at where the money is coming from - and that is also night and day 😂
 
The QF F lounge have never had regular top tier wines.
Christmas decanter offerings of Grange are clearly excluded.
If you are comparing it to DXB EK F wines, it's night and day. But then again look at where the money is coming from - and that is also night and day 😂
Agree! It’s so depressing. Where I have a choice of lounges (excl. Syd) I head to the other OW lounges.

And even Sydney pre the reintroduction of coughtails, I’d sometimes head to the EK lounge for the wine there.
 
We’re heading eastbound tomorrow and the EK lounge doen’t even factor into it. Far to much hotel lobby like with buffet for my liking.

Well, unless our departure gate is nearby and we decide to decamp closer to departure.

LOL, I agree that the EK lounge has all the ambience of a 1990s Marriot Executive Club lounge. It's visually drab and the basement level setting means the views aren't up to much (though sometimes quite interesting, at ground level) - there's no doubt the Flounge beats it hands down for views and ambience and a general sense of occasion, and is objectively a better lounge overall.

But there are things the EK lounge is better for, leaving aside for a moment which set of gates you're departing from. Given it's an outstation lounge which every business and Gold-tier passenger has access to, up against Qantas' flagship First Class lounge in its primary hub, that really shouldn't be the case - QF's offering should totally outclass it.

The wine is the obvious one. It's a slightly smaller selection than QF's but vastly higher quality. There's a choice of 2 very respectable brands of champagne, and for the still wines they're spending 2-3x more per bottle (and, more importantly, they're also much higher quality) than QF, and you can self-serve. This was the EK wine selection on a recent visit for example:
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I also find the EK food spread to be remarkably high quality, and the fact that it's buffet style and/or has lots of pre-made plates is very efficient if you're short on time. Here's a recent spread:
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If you only have ~20mins before a flight and just want some high quality food and drink without the stress of waiting to be served, wondering whether the QF servers are having an off day, and (in my case at least) being irritated all over again by the cheap-cough wines, the EK lounge fits the bill remarkably well.

Don't get me wrong, the QF F Lounge is beautiful, and particularly if you have 45+ minutes to luxuriate in it pre-flight it's a wonderful place to be. But it really, REALLY annoys me how cheap and sh*tty the wine is now - for me, that's an important part of the experience - and it also mystifies me that QF doesn't have at least some small buffet section for people who are very short on time, as most other lounges with seated a la carte dining areas do. It's not unusual for me only to have about 20mins lounge time before a trans-Tasman flight in Y, so does that mean I have to go to the (truly embarrassingly awful) QF J lounge instead, if EK isn't open? That doesn't seem like a good system.

OK, I'll stop ranting now... :D
 
The QF F lounge have never had regular top tier wines.
Christmas decanter offerings of Grange are clearly excluded.
If you are comparing it to DXB EK F wines, it's night and day. But then again look at where the money is coming from - and that is also night and day 😂
Honestly, I'm not expecting top tier wines (though that would be nice). But I do think we could reasonably expect a bit more than basic $15-25 bottles (champagne aside). And while I'm no expert on the QF F Lounge, when I was guested in a few times by my partner 2-2.5 years ago when he was Plat, it was notable that amid the dross of the red wines offered there was always one that was in a different quality and price league to the others (more like a $55-75 bottle) for those who care and were paying attention, but even that has dried up now.

And I used to hear about the one special off-list red in a decanter at the bar, but by all accounts that's long-gone too.

Agree! It’s so depressing. Where I have a choice of lounges (excl. Syd) I head to the other OW lounges.

And even Sydney pre the reintroduction of coughtails, I’d sometimes head to the EK lounge for the wine there.
Seems like we are of the same mindset :)

Perhaps it's time I explored the QF coughtail list instead. At least that's looking a bit more healthy once again.
 
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Honestly, I'm not expecting top tier wines (though that would be nice). But I do think we could reasonably expect a bit more than basic $15-25 bottles (champagne aside). And while I'm no expert on the QF F Lounge, when I was guested in a few times by my partner 2-2.5 years ago when he was Plat, it was notable that amid the dross of the red wines offered there was always one that was in a different quality and price league to the others (more like a $55-75 bottle) for those who care and were paying attention, but even that has dried up now.

And I used to hear about the one special off-list red in a decanter at the bar, but by all accounts that's long-gone too.


Seems like we are of the same mindset :)

Perhaps it's time I explored the QF coughtail list instead. At least that's looking a bit more healthy once again.
Pre-Covid (QF F used to have 3 to 4 types of bubbles and certainly better wines than currently on offer. That’s for sure.
 
Pre-Covid (QF F used to have 3 to 4 types of bubbles and certainly better wines than currently on offer. That’s for sure.
Qantas used to have a wine selection panel of winemakes curating the wines in the lounges. This was disbanded around mid 2015 and wine selection handed over to Neil Perry's company. The result speaks for itself.
I think, luckily, this does not include the in flight wine curating.
 
Qantas used to have a wine selection panel of winemakes curating the wines in the lounges. This was disbanded around mid 2015 and wine selection handed over to Neil Perry's company. The result speaks for itself.
I think, luckily, this does not include the in flight wine curating.

That's not a reason for it to go to rubbish. Eg, the sommelier at Rockpool Perth is amazing and a fantastic wine selection there. It's more a reflection of cost cutting than anything else.
 
It included the inflight wine selection.
Makes sense because the inflight wine selection is also much worse these days. But they’re probably being given a very mean budget to work with
 

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