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Coronavirus (COVID-19) Respiratory illness - Effect on Travel

p--and--t

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I'm finding Americans as a whole are enthusiastic (?delusional) when it comes to travel opening up again. Still seeing posts on the Seabourn FB group asking if they think November med cruises will go ahead
I would say delusional is closer to the mark !!
Is it something in the water? Not just travel they are often delusional about. 🤔
 
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I would say delusional is closer to the mark !!
I'm not sure about delusional, but woefully uninformed. Looking on flyertalk, there's still quite a few people wanting to do mileage runs, take advantage of cheap and mistake fares etc from the US to the Asia region. I don't think many realise that more or less the segment of the world that is east of Dubai and west of Honolulu is closed to international travel, with a few exceptions mainly relating to citizenship and residency of travellers and nature of the travel.
 
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Totally agree. Our son lived in the USA for 8 years and we were travelling all over the USA during that time. ( Have been to all 50 states) Americans in general do not know much about the big wide world past their shores.

Although I have not done nearly as much travelling in the US as yourself, the impression from a few trips to a dozen states is that the range of knowledge for many seems to be what is happening within 100-150 miles from where they were born and still live, what pops up on their social media account, and not a whole lot more.
 

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Although I have not done nearly as much travelling in the US as yourself, the impression from a few trips to a dozen states is that the range of knowledge for many seems to be what is happening within 100-150 miles from where they were born and still live, what pops up on their social media account, and not a whole lot more.
Isnt there some kind of astonishing statistic where most US politicians dont and have never held a passport?
 

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Isnt there some kind of astonishing statistic where most US politicians dont and have never held a passport?
Wouldn't be surprised. Many Americans don't understand that they need a passport to travel and totally throw a tantrum when they find out someone won't accept USD for a purchase.
 

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I think at some stage there was a figure that less than 10% of American's held a passport but that has changed - see below. Australia at the same time was about 57%

The number of Americans with passports has hit a record high. According to Census and State Department data, 21.4 million passports were issued in 2016, which is the most ever. That means 42 percent of Americans hold a passport, a growth of 15 percent since 2007.Jan 18, 2018
 

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Wouldn't be surprised. Many Americans don't understand that they need a passport to travel and totally throw a tantrum when they find out someone won't accept USD for a purchase.
To be fair, I wasn't talking about the huge number of Americans, like many Australians,who have (in their opinion ) no need to be that well informed about the rest of the world. Instead, I was referring to the FT status-run type, who have their passports, are well aware of where USD can be used or not, but remain woefully uninformed as to anything other than where the latest mistake fare/mileage run can take them. Remaining blissfully unaware until someone points out they the might have a problem entering their said destination due to the pandemic.
 

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And what's worse, they actually don't care that they are woefully ill-informed about the rest of the world!!

On my first trip to the USA many decades ago I came to realise that it was this, plus even more that that many just had no comprehension that there actually is any other way than the American way.
 

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I think at some stage there was a figure that less than 10% of American's held a passport but that has changed - see below. Australia at the same time was about 57%

The number of Americans with passports has hit a record high. According to Census and State Department data, 21.4 million passports were issued in 2016, which is the most ever. That means 42 percent of Americans hold a passport, a growth of 15 percent since 2007.Jan 18, 2018
I wonder if that has been driven by some changes in regulations about being able to just use an ID to enter and leave & enter the country in recent years?

I recall they didn't need a passport to go to Canada and Mexico and go on a coastal cruise.

Not sure of the facts but got the impression this has changed somewhat.
 

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I wonder if that has been driven by some changes in regulations about being able to just use an ID to enter and leave & enter the country in recent years?

I recall they didn't need a passport to go to Canada and Mexico and go on a coastal cruise.

Not sure of the facts but got the impression this has changed somewhat.
They used to just require government issued photo ID to enter Canada/Mexico land crossings. This changed about 5-6 years ago to require a normal passport, which lead to a massive surge in passport applications from people living in border states (along with multi-month long delays in getting passports issued) and the introduction of the passport card.
 

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Thailand still looks like remaining closed this year.

The Palmer House in Chicago a Hilton hotel has gone under .

Not surprisingly airports aren't doing well.
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Covid is still having a major effect on travel and airlines in particular.SQ has come to an agreement with it's pilots.Many are retained but with big pay cuts.


Marriott may lose over 100 hotels in the States.


Europes tourism industry is campaigning to end quarantine arrangements and change to a testing regime.

 

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A little bit of normality returning-BA is bringing back basic hot meals to long haul flights.
 

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