Census 2016 - Travel Overseas and avoid?

[Pushka]

Re: The totally off-topic thread

OK, if I was overseas I wouldn't complete it as surely this is a factor of the demographic study? You are not in Australia tonight. That is the criteria for completion.

In my family, my husband, son, brother, sister in law, niece, and nephew are all overseas and they are not doing one.

 

[whatmeworry]

Re: The totally off-topic thread

I am sure the packer family are never home on census night.

 

[chelzmalee]

Re: The totally off-topic thread

Did mine last night, and checked the box for my data to be made available in 100 years. Why? Family history of course!

I'm always thinking how I can make it easier for my future generations to find me.

Was sad there was so section to add my furry roommate, though.

 

[Himeno]

Re: The totally off-topic thread

Does it have to be completed on the same device?
Can other people in the same household see what answers someone else has entered?

 

[Deleted member]

Re: Census 2016

I'm still confused. How does NOT providing your name and address improve your privacy. Considering the ATO, centre link, dept transport, births deaths and marriages, and a host of other statutory authorities ( not to mention banks , insurance companies etc) already have all of this information

 

[Cruiser Elite]

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I'm still confused. How does NOT providing your name and address improve your privacy. Considering the ATO, centre link, dept transport, births deaths and marriages, and a host of other statutory authorities ( not to mention banks , insurance companies etc) already have all of this information

You just had to come along and muddy the waters with facts didn't you?

 

[Pushka]

Re: Census 2016

I'm still confused. How does NOT providing your name and address improve your privacy. Considering the ATO, centre link, dept transport, births deaths and marriages, and a host of other statutory authorities ( not to mention banks , insurance companies etc) already have all of this information

I dont have any issues with those authorities having such details as this is required for them to undertake their legislative requirements. I can choose to give that info to Insurance companies if I want to, I am not required to. The ABS is simply a gathering place for statistics. They do not need to know me as an individual. Just a statistic.

 

[love_the_life]

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I thought you weren't meant to do it if you were overseas?

That is my understanding as well. I thought the census was a 'snapshot' as they say of Australia at a particular date in time. We toyed with flying to Auckland for a day or so to miss out.

 

[Pushka]

Re: Census 2016

That is my understanding as well. I thought the census was a 'snapshot' as they say of Australia at a particular date in time. We toyed with flying to Auckland for a day or so to miss out.

Dammit. You missed the chance of a nice jaunt there! MrP currently in AKL but working.

 

[samh004]

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That is my understanding as well. I thought the census was a 'snapshot' as they say of Australia at a particular date in time. We toyed with flying to Auckland for a day or so to miss out.

I know people who have.

Then again, this is AFF, I'm sure we all do

 

[Quickstatus]

Re: The totally off-topic thread

I was surprised with the census being so general. I couldn't see the problem others had with putting names on the document. It took about 10 minutes and no issues.
The Marriott Marquis in New York has really good high speed internet.
Tonight we have tickets to Hamilton and the pricing has dropped from $2,000 a ticket a month ago.
We need to see Adele back in Los Angeles as she is at Staples Center.

what's the price range for hamilton these days. How far ahead did you book?

 

[RooFlyer]

Re: Census 2016

I am sure the packer family are never home on census night.

Which Packer family? You don't have to be home, just in this country.

Does it have to be completed on the same device?
Can other people in the same household see what answers someone else has entered?

Anyone in a household who doesn't want others to see their details can ask for a separate form (this has always been the situation), or separate log-on. And yes, anyone can ask for these after tonight. The rule that it has to be done 'on census night' seems to be largely waived this time.

I dont have any issues with those authorities having such details as this is required for them to undertake their legislative requirements. I can choose to give that info to Insurance companies if I want to, I am not required to. The ABS is simply a gathering place for statistics. They do not need to know me as an individual. Just a statistic.

The ABS also need your details for them to undertake their legislative requirements. The legislative requirements for ABS to collect info, and for all of us to give that info is no more or less that those requirements for you to give info to the tax department, social security, Medicare etc. The main difference though, is that ABS census data is rigorously protected and secured within the ABS and cannot be shared with any other government agency. The other ones actively swap data and in fact promote that they do so.

So, unless you plan to withhold your name, address etc when you do your tax return (on line?), make a Medicare claim (on line?) etc, you aren't on solid ground when complaining about having to fill those details in on a census form. At least the census doesn't ask for my banking details ; but then again, it doesn't have to. At least 3 other departments already have them.

Big deal.

 

[NM]

Re: Census 2016

Technically, I am spending the night on QF51 while the rest of my family is at home. So will that make my house a single-parent family according to ABS? Mrs NM is filling it in (she has messaged me for a few answers). I haven't asked if she is noting me as being home or not?? Oh well, I guess I am just a blip in the scheme of census data.

 

[Buzzard]

Re: Census 2016

If you really don't want them to know things about you, just tick a box. Any box.

 

[Pushka]

Census 2016

If you really don't want them to know things about you, just tick a box. Any box.

Or a name. Pick a name. Any name.

So with one person away, MrP, I was asked questions about him. I noted the Banks' refusal to allow me to liaise with them re his credit card attached to our joint account and answered appropriately.

I always get a tax refund so the ATO has my details

I know the ATO and Centrelink shares details and am fine with that. Their charter is to provide individuals with service. The ABS does not deal with individuals but demographics. They do not need to know me.

 

[TheRealTMA]

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Don't forget to add a couple of extra people. QLD needs the extra money from the Feds.

 

[RooFlyer]

Re: Census 2016

Technically, I am spending the night on QF51 while the rest of my family is at home. So will that make my house a single-parent family according to ABS? Mrs NM is filling it in (she has messaged me for a few answers). I haven't asked if she is noting me as being home or not?? Oh well, I guess I am just a blip in the scheme of census data.

Presumably you'll be noted in Question 53, referring to people who usually reside at the household, but are away.

 

[NM]

Presumably you'll be noted in Question 53, referring to people who usually reside at the household, but are away.

As I have not seen the questions, I can only assume you are correct. There are obviously going to be many plane loads of people in my situation tonight.

Or a name. Pick a name. Any name.

Me thinks there may be a lot of Donald Trumps residing in Australia tonight???

 

[Pushka]

Re: Census 2016

Me thinks there may be a lot of Donald Trumps residing in Australia tonight???

Now that is a name!

 

[Mattg]

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Well, our household didn't receive a form/code and I can't get through to anyone on the phone as the ABS is predictably experiencing a "high volume of calls"...