Cats and dogs may fly in Australian cabins

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From December this year, airlines will be able to decide if pet cats and dogs can be carried in the cabins on Australian domestic flights.

The Civil Aviation Safety Authority’s changes to general flight and operating rules take effect from December 2, in a significant first step towards allowing pets in the cabin other than designated service dogs.

Under the changes, responsibility for allowing pets in the cabin would be passed to the pilot-in-command, with a few general guidelines to be observed.

“When giving permission, you may need to consider the type of animal and how it is carried, contained and restrained; its reaction to noise and being out of its natural environment; nuisance to other passengers; distraction to flight crew; and how excrement or fluids will be contained,” the new CASA rules state.

“A large animal should always be secured so as not to damage or affect the balance of the aircraft in flight. A small or medium-sized animal carried in the cabin would normally need as a minimum to be restrained during takeoff and landing and in turbulence.”
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Although Qantas and Jetstar immediately ruled out allowing pets in the cabin in response to the CASA changes, Virgin Australia is leaving the door open.

“We’ll consider the regulatory changes as part of a wider pet travel review we’re currently undertaking,” a spokesman said.

“Regardless of the outcome, designated service dogs will still be able to travel in the cabin.”
 
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Not in favour of this at all. Guide dogs only. Have a family member who gets asthma from dog hair and which is why we have not had a dog since it was that was discovered.
Looking at your status as Qantas Platinum, Virgin Red, you should have no issues if you continue to fly Qantas (and Jetstar). Or at least, your family member continues to fly/switches to QF group.
 
Is there any sense why CASA why they have adopted this "significant first step"?

In my travels in Europe & USA, I haven't seen any pets whatsoever?
 
In some cases, the airports don't allow pets in terminals, so that could stop a few.
 
“A large animal should always be secured so as not to damage or affect the balance of the aircraft in flight." Wait. What? I'm very interested know how an animal big enough to affect the balance of the aircraft is to be secured. With a whacking great chain? I'm not even allowed to take a plastic cable/zip tie or a spooled fishing reel on board.

But how's this going to work? I'm allergic to cats (well the dried saliva they leave on their hair), and plenty people dislike dogs (for whatever reason but my dog would bring them round!). Being in close proximity to pets, and everyone will have different thoughts as to what is close proximity, could easily be an awful situation for many people.
 
Is there any sense why CASA why they have adopted this "significant first step"?

In my travels in Europe & USA, I haven't seen any pets whatsoever?

I have in Europe, small dogs on passengers laps, common in eating establishments as well
 
What a surprising change this is under a smokescreen by CASA that they are giving airlines the freedom of choice in this matter.
This is at a time when major US airlines have clamped down on animals other than accredited service animals being in the passenger cabin.
Enclosed cabins on planes where people do not chose to have an animal near them, due to allergies etc, and where food and drink are served, are no place for animals in general.
Let us hope that Qantas, Jetstar, Virgin, and Rex use common sense in this matter, and keep to the current practice of service animals only in passenger cabins.
 
I had a blind person sit next to me with their guide dog on two occasions (always in a bulkhead row / front row of Y where ther eis a little extra leg room) and am fine with that. Those guide dogs dont have a reputation for attacking people or pooping in inappropriate places.

Like @Happy Dude Im allergic to cats so it would be a nightmare to have to sit within the vicinity of one.

When I flew from Barcelona to Split (Croatia) , the guy in front of me in the check in queue had 2 small pugs which he was taking as hand luggage. The airline had a weight limit for dogs including the pet carrier bag (I believe they had to stay in a pet carrier and needed to be able to fit under the seat or maybe it was between feet). One was a little pudgy and I was watching him remove the lining of the carrier, remove the dogs collar etc to try and get under weight. It was quite funny.

If airlines here want to introduce pets onboard Id suggest it needs to be only on selected flights so people can avoid those and only in the last few rows of Y sectioned off by a curtain or something.

I get that it is stressful for pets to fly as cargo but the shenanigans that have happened on US domestic flights with anxiety pets is awful and not something we need to see here.
 
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I had a blind person sit next to me with their guide dog on two occasions (always in an exit row), am fine with that. Those guide dogs dont have a reputation for attacking people or pooping in inappropriate places.

Like @Happy Dude Im allergic to cats so it would be a nightmare to have to sit within the vicinity of one.

When I flew from Barcelona to Split (Croatia) , the guy in front of me in the check in queue had 2 small pugs which he was taking as hand luggage. The airline had a weight limit for dogs including the pet carrier bag (I believe they had to stay in a pet carrier and needed to be able to fit under the seat or maybe it was between feet). One was a little pudgy and I was watching him remove the lining of the carrier, remove the dogs collar etc to try and get under weight. It was quite funny.

If airlines here want to introduce pets onboard Id suggest it needs to be only on selected flights so people can avoid those and only in the last few rows of Y sectioned off by a curtain or something.

I get that it is stressful for pets to fly as cargo but the shenanigans that have happened on US domestic flights with anxiety pets is awful and not something we need to see here.

Sorry, say again - a blind person with their guide dog in the exit row? VERY happy to have them onboard, but surely not in the exit row!

Unfortunately the States/Territories are broadening the definitions of 'assistance animals' so I suspect it will not be long after the CASA prohobition ceases that there will be disability discrimination claim that will force the airline's hands. While absolutely committed to inclusion and disability support the bar is so low on 'assistance animals' in some jurisdictions it is ludicrous.
 
I wonder what the driver was for this, with CASA. They normally don’t expend any energy on important things, and this would be number 5 million on the to do list. As QF has already said they won’t be allowing it, I wonder if it was one of the others trying to come up with a bit of differentiation.

As an ex ‘pilot in command’, I wouldn’t be allowing it. There’s a perfectly good, air conditioned, hold.
 
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