Border Force taking boarding passes

[serfty]

Going back to the QF1/2/3/9/10/123/15 MEL/SYD days and even those days when Starclass was good value, the govm't staff always took my BP's with D sticker. Jetstar would take the stub on boardingl, so I would always take a photo. Never has to claim fortunately.

 

[madrooster]

That’s interesting. So what are you supposed to use when the app thinks you’ve departed and you haven’t and the BP goes pffft! For those who don’t have FF cards.

You have to get a paper pass printed at the gate. It's rather coughbersome.

 

[love_the_life]

Apparently QF don't accept screenshot boarding passes anymore due to the ability to make fraudulent copies of it.

Surprised they ever did accept a screenshot given that it's just a photo, not the actual BP saved. But there you go, you would know for certain.

 

[VPS]

I just checked my Wallet app and I've got a boarding pass to Darwin and it's a least three years since I went to Darwin

 

[love_the_life]

I just checked my Wallet app and I've got a boarding pass to Darwin and it's a least three years since I went to Darwin

I don't think there is any problem with them if they are saved to the Wallet. I think. MrPushka's problem was that the BP was in the app, not wallet. I go through Wallet every now and then and purge the old BPs otherwise I keep pulling up old ones.

 

[jb01]

I don't think there is any problem with them if they are saved to the Wallet. I think. MrPushka's problem was that the BP was in the app, not wallet.

Correct. This happened to me just yesterday. My BNE-PER flight was delayed, so the flight and boarding pass disappeared from the Qantas App. Luckily, I had already saved it to Apple wallet, where it will now stay locally on my device for eternity if I want it to.

 

[Pushka]

I never use Wallet. I don’t even know if I have it on the phone. Maybe I put it into the “Icrap” folder I’ve created. Oh. That doesn’t look good.

 

[wandering_fred]

A couple of places proposing cashless societies have just thought about the possibility the communications networks "going down"..... Oops.....
I just had a clean out of my BPs from ten years ago.....

Maybe wandering
Fred

 

[bPeteb]

Apparently QF don't accept screenshot boarding passes anymore due to the ability to make fraudulent copies of it.

Unless the screen shot is of half a bp that seems unlikely. I doubt that anyone would be able to tell the difference between a screen shot of the bp I have stored in my phone wallet, or the bp itself. Even if this is for a claim or for boarding I don't see how this could be done.

 

[cwd]

Unless the screen shot is of half a bp that seems unlikely. I doubt that anyone would be able to tell the difference between a screen shot of the bp I have stored in my phone wallet, or the bp itself. Even if this is for a claim or for boarding I don't see how this could be done.

I think as of some time in the last year the barcode in the app changes periodically. Presumably a time is now included in the barcode. That said, I do remember using a screenshot even after they introduced the changing barcode. But perhaps they've only recently started enforcing it.

The digital card in the Qantas App also has an animation, presumably to make it harder to just use a screenshot of someone else's.

 

[love_the_life]

I never use Wallet. I don’t even know if I have it on the phone. Maybe I put it into the “Icrap” folder I’ve created. Oh. That doesn’t look good.

Perhaps you could find it again.
It is very useful. I have quite a few things in it including my Woolies rewards card which means I just hold it over the eftpos machine to register when buying stuff.

 

[madrooster]

Unless the screen shot is of half a bp that seems unlikely. I doubt that anyone would be able to tell the difference between a screen shot of the bp I have stored in my phone wallet, or the bp itself. Even if this is for a claim or for boarding I don't see how this could be done.

They look at the time on your phone. On a screenshot unless you have cropped it, it'll show the time of the screenshot. Alternatively they scroll it up and down to see that it moves.

 

[serfty]

It seem you do need to 'save' those BP's.

Here's a classic from BA a few years ago for an intentional flight. (Cliff notes: Accessed Landside Lounge with app BP, flight delayed, boarding called after sch. flight departure, could no longer access BP on app, not permitted airside without BP, missed flight)

Missed flight due to BA App crashing - FlyerTalk Forums

British Airways | Executive Club - Missed flight due to BA App crashing - Evening all, Missed my flight back from France on Friday night, because the BA App had died and wouldn't bring my boarding pass up. Unfortunately, nobody was around to help, as it was the last flight of the day (and...

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[Lynda2475]

My flight from MeL to Syd was delayed 90 mins on Friday night as only 1 runway open in Mel. Digital boarding pass disappeared, so I was happy id printed a paper one on arrival. Seems odd to me that the app tells you about the delay but then isnt smart enough to retain it until actual not scheduled departure.

Ground staff were advising passengers to scan their ff card or go to desk for new bp. Id think anyone using the app would be a ff given you need to log into app using ff#.

 

[Daver6]

What makes even less sense is why they scan QR codes. Why not just use NFC if the phone supports it.

 

[love_the_life]

Perhaps I need to get my eyes tested again; I keep reading the thread title as Border Farce taking boarding passes.

 

[justinbrett]

What makes even less sense is why they scan QR codes. Why not just use NFC if the phone supports it.

And why in 2019 do we still have to show boarding passes at the aircraft door even when boarding via an aerobridge. What do they suppose could happen in the sixty seconds since it was last scanned? They don’t do this in the US and I haven’t heard of any issues - apart from that one kid ending up in New York alone.

 

[Daver6]

And why in 2019 do we still have to show boarding passes at the aircraft door even when boarding via an aerobridge. What do they suppose could happen in the sixty seconds since it was last scanned? They don’t do this in the US and I haven’t heard of any issues - apart from that one kid ending up in New York alone.

On wide body aircraft, they tell you which aisle to go down. They'll also usually point out whether you're window or aisle. Not everyone is a seasoned flier and knows everything.

 

[harvyk]

On wide body aircraft, they tell you which aisle to go down. They'll also usually point out whether you're window or aisle. Not everyone is a seasoned flier and knows everything.

There is also the whole turn left / turn right / head upstairs / please read the exit row instructions as part of the welcome.

 

[ozbeachbabe]

Unless the screen shot is of half a bp that seems unlikely. I doubt that anyone would be able to tell the difference between a screen shot of the bp I have stored in my phone wallet, or the bp itself. Even if this is for a claim or for boarding I don't see how this could be done.

I've seen F/A's boarding domestic flights knock back pax with a screen shot telling them to get a boarding pass reprinted. The screen shot was obvious due to the gallery of other photos underneath it.

Not sure whether the reasoning came about after the NH incident whether two brothers boarded a LAX-NRT flight using the same electronic boarding pass after one of them used a screen shot.