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Baggage allowance - QF business class

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Dave Noble

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NM said:
Here is where the confusion comes is.

3PC is more generous than 2PC if all your pieces are less than 23Kg.

but if you only want to check in two pieces, and one of those pieces is say 28kg, the QF 2PC policy would allow it (1 x 23kg + 1 x 28kg), but the BA policy would apply an excess charge. So in this example, which is more generous for this particular customer? Many people would interpret QF as more generous to this particular customer.

The we get into the debate of what is the allowance and what is the restriction as mentioned above.
Not really . IATA defines the allowances

The "piece concept" defines the number of bags entitled by the passenger's ticket.

The "weight concept" defines the amount of baggage entitled by the passenger's ticket in kilos

Since comparison is piece to piece, the BA allowance is higher plus this fits in with what happens currently when transferring in situations such as with AA-BA vs BA-AA

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Dave Noble said:
Not really . IATA defines the allowances

The "piece concept" defines the number of bags entitled by the passenger's ticket.

The "weight concept" defines the amount of baggage entitled by the passenger's ticket in kilos

Since comparison is piece to piece, the BA allowance is higher plus this fits in with what happens currently when transferring in situations such as with AA-BA vs BA-AA

Dave
But IATA does not define the weight limit per piece, which is where the variation comes into play. yes, 3 pieces is more than 2 pieces, but when my ticket says 2PC for a DONE4, QF could happily carry the example 1x23kg + 1x28kg, while BA will want me to either repack it into 3 bags or charge an excess because 1 bag is more than 23kg.

I can see how a passenger at the check-in counter may argue that for their situation, the QF 2 piece allowance is more generous than the BA 3 piece allowance. So does the BA check-in agent have any discretion to interpret the words "most generous" to be able to apply to the weight restriction part of the policy or must it always be applied to the number of pieces part of the policy.

As far as I am concerned the baggage allowance policy is a combination of number of pieces and weight limit per piece. Separation of number or pieces and weight does not make sence, its the combination that applies. So for a DONE4 fare BA's baggage allowance policy is 3 pieces where no single piece exceeds 23kg. QF's policy for the same ticket is 2 pieces where no single piece exceeds 32kg. As the passenger, I would like to be able to choose which of those is more generous to me at the time of check-in with BA.
 

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NM said:
But IATA does not define the weight limit per piece, which is where the variation comes into play. yes, 3 pieces is more than 2 pieces, but when my ticket says 2PC for a DONE4, QF could happily carry the example 1x23kg + 1x28kg, while BA will want me to either repack it into 3 bags or charge an excess because 1 bag is more than 23kg.

I can see how a passenger at the check-in counter may argue that for their situation, the QF 2 piece allowance is more generous than the BA 3 piece allowance. So does the BA check-in agent have any discretion to interpret the words "most generous" to be able to apply to the weight restriction part of the policy or must it always be applied to the number of pieces part of the policy.

As far as I am concerned the baggage allowance policy is a combination of number of pieces and weight limit per piece. Separation of number or pieces and weight does not make sence, its the combination that applies. So for a DONE4 fare BA's baggage allowance policy is 3 pieces where no single piece exceeds 23kg. QF's policy for the same ticket is 2 pieces where no single piece exceeds 32kg. As the passenger, I would like to be able to choose which of those is more generous to me at the time of check-in with BA.
Well the whole point of it is to stop people packing heavy bags, and to make people pack less weight in more bags.

The total allowance is more (3x23 = 69Kg, 2x32 = 64Kg).

The fee is not an excess baggage fee, but a special handling fee.
 
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