Ayers Rock / Uluru - not open for Aussies??

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Uluru is a bucket list destination for me so I booked last night, me and my 15-year-old daughter leaving 26 May from MEL, via Sydney on VA. Staying at a rock-view room at Desert Gardens Hotel.
Will do the Sounds of Silence dinner, but was wondering if hiring a car is better than doing the tours?
We're staying from Thursday arvo and leaving Monday Monday morning so will have three full days.


When we were there we did two tours - one to Uluru and another to Kata Tjuta National Park with dinner under the stars. Both were spectacular, especially the latter. The stars at night in the desert are brilliant - literally. I'd do some tours. The expert commentary is fantastic.
 
When we were there we did two tours - one to Uluru and another to Kata Tjuta National Park with dinner under the stars. Both were spectacular, especially the latter. The stars at night in the desert are brilliant - literally. I'd do some tours. The expert commentary is fantastic.
Thanks coco. I might ditch the hire car idea and do the same tours you did, but I'm an early riser these days so I might do the sunrise tours instead of sunset.
 
We did this for my husbands 50th and we hired a car.

What I found just after dawn, all the buses are gone and you basically have the place to yourself - and its so quite.

We did a one day tour just to look around ect and then after that we were on our own, which is what we prefer. Oh and hubby did the camel walk and really liked it.
 
We did this for my husbands 50th and we hired a car.

What I found just after dawn, all the buses are gone and you basically have the place to yourself - and its so quite.

We did a one day tour just to look around ect and then after that we were on our own, which is what we prefer. Oh and hubby did the camel walk and really liked it.

So did we. The sounds of silence dinner was on his 50th and the talk focussed on Scorpio, his star sign.
(Going to Denali on my big 'zero' in June).

The camel walk - they just got me and our two teen sons on the camel when a huge thunderstorm hit (November ones!). And the camels reared up. They had to get us off quickly and no one else was able to even climb on one. One camel panicked at the storm and got his legged hooked in their chain which was nasty. But he seemed ok in the end.
 
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(Going to Denali on my big 'zero' in June). ......

:D I told my husband its his job to plan my Alaskan birthday trip for my five-0... which he wont, he thinks fairies plan our trips.

I spent a month up there in 1997 - bet you its changed A LOT. Enjoy!
 
We did this for my husbands 50th and we hired a car.

What I found just after dawn, all the buses are gone and you basically have the place to yourself - and its so quite.

We did a one day tour just to look around ect and then after that we were on our own, which is what we prefer. Oh and hubby did the camel walk and really liked it.
Argh! Now I can't decide!
 
Will do the Sounds of Silence dinner, but was wondering if hiring a car is better than doing the tours?
If budget permits, you might want to do both. The tours will give you a good introduction to the area and some background, while having your own transport will allow you to return to any areas that you particularly liked, away from the madding throng and without the tyranny of a timetable.
 
Argh! Now I can't decide!


Pro:
You can come and go as you please.
You can stay later and explore once the 10 or 20 bus groups have left
You don't have to share your 5-6am before coffee time with 50 other people who wont STFU
Parking isn't an issue
You can revisit places outside of bus group times and avoid the crowd
Youre not sitting on the bus waiting for that one person who always thinks rules don't apply to them


Con:
Cost of car hire and fuel
Driving yourself to/from location... just follow the long line of bus lights.
 
:D I told my husband its his job to plan my Alaskan birthday trip for my five-0... which he wont, he thinks fairies plan our trips.

I spent a month up there in 1997 - bet you its changed A LOT. Enjoy!

I am very excited. Planning on a glacier landing on Fox Glacier and a tour of the Summit.
 
Oh and I also got my husband a helicopter ride on his actual birthday. We took one early afternoon so he got the helicopter to himself (I was sitting in the back hating it, now I just pay for a 2nd seat for his backpack so I can stay on the ground). Got a look at the Olgas as well and in the distance another site that is even bigger than Ayres Rock (cant remember the name, Mitchell something?)
 
Thanks coco. I might ditch the hire car idea and do the same tours you did, but I'm an early riser these days so I might do the sunrise tours instead of sunset.


Do the dinner under the stars or at least get away from artificial light at night. There is nothing like it!. I hope you and your daughter have a great time. Could be a bit cool in the desert in May.
 
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I'm heading to Uluru at the end of April for a few days as I've always wanted to visit. Am going solo - so I'm guessing 'dinner under the stars' might be a bit strange. Although seeing the night sky is probably about 50% of what I'm looking forward to.
 
Been there twice.

Once before kids as part of a self-drive 4WD trip before kids which took in part of the original Ghan track bed, Dhalhousie Spings, Simpson Desert, Puni Bore (now capped), Horseshoe Ben Homestead, Ayrer rock (was not really called Uluru then), then literlally drove up the dry Finke River to save going out on the highway which would have beena major detour and a lot less scenic, through the Finke Gorge and Palm Valley, before swinging out to Gosses Bluff (22km diameter meteorite crater) and Haasts Bluff, then back through the various gorges along the MacDonnell Ranges into The Alice, where it rained with a deluge turning all the inland tracks to soup and so instead of returing to Melbourne via Birdsville we swung north up to Mataranka Springs and Catherine Gorge and then east till we hit the coast to explore Fraser Island and then back down the coast to Melbourne.

* We camped at campground at Ayers rock for several nights, climbed the rock and did a number of walks including in The Olgas (Kata Tjuta) including Valley of The Winds. Personally I find The Olgas more stunning that The Rock including at sunset. having your own vehicle meant that you could explore at your own leisure and go o some longer walks.

Next trip was with our 3 daughters. It was 2000 and the Olympic batton relay was on and we took in the Cental Australian part. Redeemed some business class redemptions with Ansett (my then preferred domestic airline) to The Whitsundays for a weeks bareboating in a yacht and back through Alice Springs to Melbourne. Back then you could detour like this for no extra point cost.

Originally the plan was to camp and we had hired dual cab ute with a camping pack (much cheaper than a 4WD) and plenty of room for bags plus the camping gear and we were to explore for overa week including at Ulura (Was now called this rather than Ayers rock).. Arrived at the hire depot and could not see the dual cab. The beeming representive smiled and said we had been upgraded for free to a Challenger 4WD (was over twice the price). I opened the back door and in was 100% full of the camping gear. Even the provided esky was full of cooking utensils. Thre was not even room for a toilet bag, let alone luggage for a family of five! So I as the still beeming representative as to WTF we were meant to store our luggage and food (being camping trip yes we would need food and drink!!!) and then said I obviously need the originally booked vehicle. The now not beeming rep admitted then that the vehicle had been rolled the week prior and none were available. So sucking it up I had him refund the camp back cost, and then more as well for the inconvience and then had to suddenly convert with no planning to non-camping trip!! With realy on, which had attracted extra people that mainly meant making sure you were not were where the relay was happening!!

For Rock that meant staying at the fuel stop and motel just outside the National Park. Quite pleasant with a view towards Mt Connor. Though youngest daughter who was 4 learnt what happens when one puts one finger intoa coackatoo cage!

By ringing ahead we secureda cabin at the campground that wasa lot cheaper than the hotels, and fora family of 5 was alsomore comfortbale.

Having our own car meant that we could again take things in at our own pace, including a number of walks including climbing the Rock, at its base and at The Olgas. I think we set a record for the slowest ever ascent of Uluru as it took us over 3 hours with my 4 year summitting under her own steam (I had a hiking backpack that I could have put her into if she had tired). Several days later we were at Kings Canyon and set off on an extended walks. Two older ladies were in the carpark and we heard on remark to her friend in a disapproving way about us setting off on such a walk. Her friend looked up, spotted my daughter and then said to her friend that not to worry as she had seen that liitle girl running round the top of Ulura a few days ago. ;)

Personally I would recommend hiring a car when you are there and driving as a big part of Central Australia is the vast space and you appreciate this more when you drive yourself. This also gives you great freedom to explore when and where you want. It also allows you to find some solitude which you will never find ona group tour or bus.
You can still take in a walking tour etc for some extra commentary.

Uluru/ Ayers Rock and The Olgas is a stunning place, but there are many stunning places in Central Australia many of which get much less traffic/visits and are much cheaper (even free if you don't mind bush camping). But yes mnay require time and effort to get too, but also then the journe becomesa big part of the trip.
 
DO NOT CLIMB the rock. No only is it offensive to the local tribe, but downright dangerous.
Sooner or later it will be off limits to all if the fools insist that it is their right to climb the rock.

That's your personal call. Wanting to climb it does not make anyone a fool. To be honest, if climbing the rock were banned, I'd never go there....and I've been there a number of times over the years.

Having said that...my climbing days are probably behind me....
 
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I'm heading to Uluru at the end of April for a few days as I've always wanted to visit. Am going solo - so I'm guessing 'dinner under the stars' might be a bit strange. Although seeing the night sky is probably about 50% of what I'm looking forward to.


It's seven years since I was there and the memories of the brilliant night sky are still vivid!
 
Am going solo - so I'm guessing 'dinner under the stars' might be a bit strange.

From memory it's group tables so you won't be sitting alone. And a lot of your dining companions will be Americans who are known for being talkative ;)
 
I have never been to Ayres Rock and I seriously thought climbing it was banned - as it appears thatr is not the case will be heading there sometime this year. Thanks so much to all contributors to this thread.
 
I have never been to Ayres Rock and I seriously thought climbing it was banned - as it appears thatr is not the case will be heading there sometime this year. Thanks so much to all contributors to this thread.


The traditional owners would prefer that you didn't climb it. There is still the awe of the monolith. Every Australian should see Uluru.
 
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DO NOT CLIMB the rock. No only is it offensive to the local tribe, but downright dangerous.
Sooner or later it will be off limits to all if the fools insist that it is their right to climb the rock.

<snip>.

I must say that anytime someone tells me not to do something because it may offend some-one else, (such as celebrating Christmas, singing Christmas carols etc) I'm more inclined to try it.

If I recall correctly, allowing climbs to continue was an agreed condition of handing the site back to the indigenous people. So if the climb in this National Park is open, I won't need to "insist" on my "right" to climb it (again), nor will all the other fools who undertake 'open' walks in our National Parks.

I have never been to Ayres Rock and I seriously thought climbing it was banned - as it appears thatr is not the case will be heading there sometime this year. Thanks so much to all contributors to this thread.

Go for it; its a great place.
 
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